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10th October 2011, 01:58 PM #1Dave J Guest
Wheels on a lathe for moving it in the shed.
Hi,
I have a few projects on my camera that I thought may interest some of you. These are from a while ago as I broke the camera/computer cord and only just got a new one.
Before making these if I had to move the lathe, I would use my pallet jack under the cupboard which was under my lathe, but I am doing away with the cupboard and it was not the best thing lifting it by the chip pan.
I went looking down the back shed for wheels and come across an old 2000kg trolley jack missing pieces that I have had forever. I always kept it, as I thought one day I would use it for something, and this was the day. We all know it doesn't always turn out this way with things we keep, LOL
Anyway I took it apart and cut the sides out as seen in the photo's.
After cleaning them up I found the welds where poor and the casters where not welded strait either, so I fixed them up first. It's amazing it lasted this long and didn't give way.
After cleaning the wheel I found the castings to be not that great.
I grabbed a piece of heavy angle I had laying around and cut it so it was 150mm wider than the lathe base both sides for stability when moving, and then drilled some holes in it, and matching ones in the lathe bases.
I then set the trolley jack plates up and welded them to either end of the angles, making sure the caster were true and square so they would rotate properly.
After a quick coat with Supercheap spray can and greasing and assembling the wheels I bolted them on.
With the adjustable feet I have on the lathe, it was only a matter of winding them up to get the angle under, then winding them back down so they where clear of the floor, so no lifting equipment is needed.
In use, it takes a bit to get the 500kg lathe going, but once it's rolling it's right.
The good thing about these is they can be unbolted easy, and then stored for next time I change the plan of the shed.
This type of set up could be used for moving almost anything around, so if you see an old one laying around grab it.
Dave
Edit
Here is the link to the adjustable feet if anyone is interested in them.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/la...ctures-114836/Last edited by Dave J; 10th October 2011 at 02:51 PM. Reason: Added link to adjustable feet
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10th October 2011, 02:27 PM #2
jacks
Neat idea . Can you post a closeup pic of the scew jacks on the lathe base ? What did you use for feet ? My neighbour salvaged an old trolley jack from the creek and filled it with new fluid . He uses it but I wouldnt trust it under a car like he does. Mike
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10th October 2011, 02:40 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Looks great Dave, wouldnt work for me though, I dont have any space I could move mine to
He gets under a car on a trolley jack? One day you might need a new neighbour. I have a workshop (apex?) trolley jack and it had a piston seal go once. Worked fine one time I used it, next time it was stuffed, no warning.
Stuart
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10th October 2011, 02:47 PM #4Dave J Guest
Here you go Mike
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/la...ctures-114836/
Dave
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10th October 2011, 02:54 PM #5
Jack
Yes. I witnessed him working under a van supported on two trolley jacks , no stands , both rear wheels removed, I was cringing all the time . He isn't that silly normally.
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10th October 2011, 02:56 PM #6
Hi Dave,
Great idea, I have some trolley jacks that have seen better days that would be perfect.
During the lathe alignment demo yesterday, Marko made a point that, in hind sight seemed so obvious, I don't know why I never twigged before.
With a lathe, you can clamp the feet. That is the lathe is bolted to the floor. Sometimes to get rid of a twist, you need to hold the feet down, just raising and lowering you might end up with one foot off the floor, of course at the same time as being clamped, you still need to be be able to adjust the height. (of course I'm talking very small amounts here..)
I need to think about this a bit more for my lathe, I might rethink the mounting feet..
Regards
Ray
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10th October 2011, 03:00 PM #7
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10th October 2011, 03:09 PM #8Dave J Guest
Hi Ray,
Thanks for that info and it makes complete sense. I had my lathe dyna bolted to the floor for around 5 years after buying it. When I moved it I didn't want to drill holes out in the middle of the floor so I made these up. When I adjusted them they all had weight on them, though thats not to say when machining that one foot couldn't lift. But for a home shop and the tolerances we work to (and only usually short work) I don't think it would have a huge affect. But one for the note pad and thanks again, sounds like some good experience and info was given out on many things at that class.
Dave
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10th October 2011, 03:23 PM #9Dave J Guest
These lathes come with 4 holes under the headstock and 2 under the tailstock, so I just went with that.
The 4 at the headstock end are a pain to get right as you do the inner ones first then the outer ones.
If 4 where on the tailstock it would be a double pain and isn't needed on a lathe this size. If you wanted to add them it wouldn't hurt, but as I said they are not really needed.
Some old lathes come with only one mount on the tailstock end, as the be is rigid enough to keep it strait.
Dave
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10th October 2011, 03:47 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Now thats the exact opposite of what I read somewhere. It said level on the outer ones and then just snug the inner ones up making sure the lathe doesn't move. As my bed sags* in the middle and I now have a Phil fixed level** I might give it another go your way and see what happens.
Stuart
*sag being relative
**Now who would have thought you would need to check the base of a level for flatness? Another lesson learnt on the weekend.
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10th October 2011, 04:26 PM #11Dave J Guest
This is the way I have always done from the books I have here.
Rather than scan and have trouble with copy right, I drew it up.
Dave
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10th October 2011, 04:29 PM #12Dave J Guest
Mike,
If you have a problem like Stuart, with the centre of the lathe bed being high or low, 4 on the tailstock end might help to get it out.
Dave
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10th October 2011, 05:28 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Great idea Dave
tis a lot easier if things just stayed where it was put...works for me
That doesnt always work tho..the missus never stayed where I put err sent her..Italy
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10th October 2011, 05:58 PM #14Dave J Guest
Thanks
Mike, I led you astray before.
I was just down the shed and had a look at my lathe base, and it did have 4 points on the tailstock end of the standard cupboard. You now have me thinking why I went with two now, but the bed is strait and level. I think I just went with the holes where the dyna bolts went through when it was bolted down, without thinking.
I would think about changing it to see if there is any difference, but I am going to make a new stand with draws in it, so no point really. So it's up to you on whether you put 2 or 4, but 2 seem fine to me.
Dave
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10th October 2011, 06:25 PM #15
right
Thanks for the drawing .... having 4 on each column seems a bit if an overkill but it would be very stable that way
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