Thread: Whisperings

Hey Phil, How many people do you need for a group or per group?

Hi Dale,
I'd say we almost have a group now but the more the merrier.

Phil

Originally Posted by PDW

Might be coming by your way sometime in August.....

PDW

make sure you call in if you do.
Good to catch up.

Phil

Tour sounds good one day we'll venture down.

Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer

has spiral wound the packing which puts me in the 'I want to kill you mode'.

I can relate to that Phil

Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer

Very bad practise. I understand it is accepted practise when using packing under 3/16".

Back when I worked in the power stn it wasn't acceptable but there were not that many valves that small. Packing a valve by spiral winding the packing was a "reamable" offence.
Have you ever had the pleasure of repacking a valve that has been "Furmanited"?
Furmanite was a company that specialised in stopping valves from leaking whilst they were under pressure. They used to drill and tap into the side of the stuffing box, fit their adapter and then pump their special goo in. With the steam and heat it used to set like concrete. Would usually stop the leak, enabling the plant to be kept in service but when the valve was eventually pulled out of service it was a right b*****d to clean out the stuffing box.

bollie7

I have a side project going on at the moment while assembling the boiler for another year (it passed inspection today).
I am getting the Macson 2M tool and cutter grinder up and running by steadily fixing all the problems with it.
They are all small easy fixes and so is this one which is sorted apart from the fact that I need 2 x 5/16" BSF dog points.
If any one isn't sure what a dogpoint is, they look like this
ssfulldog.jpg

I reckon if I lived in England I would stand a better chance

Phil
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I went to several bolt specialty stores looking for some dog points for the Myford as gib screws and no one knew what they were and the best answer I could get was you have to turn your own from grub screws. So you may have to order them in from O/S as Aust. has fallen off the wagon these days.

Originally Posted by DSEL74

I went to several bolt specialty stores looking for some dog points for the Myford as gib screws and no one knew what they were and the best answer I could get was you have to turn your own from grub screws. So you may have to order them in from O/S as Aust. has fallen off the wagon these days.

I know what you mean Dale, should have seen the look I got today in the bolts and fasteners shop.
You know you are going to lose when you have to explain a particular style of bolt to the bolt guys.

Phil

Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer

I have a side project going on at the moment while assembling the boiler for another year (it passed inspection today).
I am getting the Macson 2M tool and cutter grinder up and running by steadily fixing all the problems with it.
They are all small easy fixes and so is this one which is sorted apart from the fact that I need 2 x 5/16" BSF dog points.
If any one isn't sure what a dogpoint is, they look like this
ssfulldog.jpg

I reckon if I lived in England I would stand a better chance

Phil
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Hi Phil, would it be possible to get 5/16 BSF grub screws and turn the ends down to suit?? Certainly be a lot cheaper.
Kryn

Phil, surely you must have some German silver steel lying around, reckon you could knock up a couple in shorter time than getting on the blower.

How I envy your job, if it's not fixing a thingamajig, it's rebuilding a whatsitcalled, and you get paid for it in gold bars!

Look forward to catching up next summer, and a Hill bakery pie, if we ever get a summer ^%$#@!

Ken

Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore

Hi Phil, would it be possible to get 5/16 BSF grub screws and turn the ends down to suit?? Certainly be a lot cheaper.
Kryn

Hi Kryn
Already thought of that to the point that I had even designed a jig to hold something like that in the lathe for machining but It's the BSF that's the stumbling block.

Originally Posted by neksmerj

Phil, surely you must have some German silver steel lying around, reckon you could knock up a couple in shorter time than getting on the blower.

How I envy your job, if it's not fixing a thingamajig, it's rebuilding a whatsitcalled, and you get paid for it in gold bars!

Look forward to catching up next summer, and a Hill bakery pie, if we ever get a summer ^%$#@!

Ken

Hi Ken
I have got and can still get a large range of silver steel in fact I have a 'D' bit thread coming up hence the tool and cutter repairs
My stumbling block is the hex socket in the end (well a successful socket anyway)

Phil

Try this mob. They haven't got grub screws in their catalogue but it's an old one so may have them available anyway. As plan B I'd second the motion for reducing down normal BSF screws but personally I'd use a cylindrical grinder.
If necessary I could pick up and post.

Classic Fasteners2009.pdf

How long do these need to be?

Michael

Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer

I have a side project going on at the moment while assembling the boiler for another year (it passed inspection today).
I am getting the Macson 2M tool and cutter grinder up and running by steadily fixing all the problems with it.
They are all small easy fixes and so is this one which is sorted apart from the fact that I need 2 x 5/16" BSF dog points.
If any one isn't sure what a dogpoint is, they look like this
ssfulldog.jpg

I reckon if I lived in England I would stand a better chance

Phil
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How is a dog point different to a grub screw. I see it is machined with no thread at the end .

Is more like a threaded locking pin?

Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art

Dog points can also be really use full in key ways to hold shafts in.

Phil could if you wanted to make some up from stock couldn't you use a slot head? Be much easier than trying to put a hex in. Then fit with a blade driver rather than allan key.