Thread: Wohlhaupter Models

Hi BT,

DVD arrived this morning.... sehr gut danke.

Regards
Ray

PS...
My two granddaughters both speak fluent German, Angelina with a strong Austrian accent.... but flips back to English at will...

That's a nice introduction Bob. Because I've forgotten so much German these days, when I used to go up there visiting if I didn't want to speak German (ie it was technical or complicated), I'd begin by saying would they mind if I spoke English. I always considered it more polite than asking if they did speak English. It could be interpreted as accusing them of being a little, err, "slow" . On eBay I simply ask in English, but very simple phrases. While normally marching up to somebody in the street there and blurting out something in English is considered the height of rudeness (and quite why some people think if they yell it or ask is some idiotic accent it makes it better is beyond me), it's a little different in business, and international transactions are normally conducted in English. I guess eBay is a bit of a half-way house, so your introduction is especially polite Bob. As always with you.

Anyway, as far as the arbor, yes a 20 mm I could accept straight in a collet, and that's my plan. But it's still good to keep an eye out for native W20 tooling as I think it's quite rare. I'm currently trying to get my head around making up some W20 cutter holders, but they're a little tricky for a number of reasons. Namely the buttress thread is a non-standard 45/5 instead of 45/7. The pitch is also 1 2/3 mm. FFS The taper itself should be fine as it's just 15 degrees, but hey, it's still a taper so the potential for a screw up is still there. Finally, there's a 4 mm keyway cut in them. Again, not a biggie, but all in all a big step up from the MT 2 and 3 I'm used to making. I used to live quite close to the Swiss border and we always considered the Swiss a little "different", the usual cross border teasing I guess. Turn on a radio station there and you'll understand what I mean. Apologies to any Swiss readers, you guys make some awesome stuff, but 1.66666667 pitch? Really?

Pete

Originally Posted by Pete F

That's a nice introduction Bob. Because I've forgotten so much German these days, when I used to go up there visiting if I didn't want to speak German (ie it was technical or complicated), I'd begin by saying would they mind if I spoke English. I always considered it more polite than asking if they did speak English. It could be interpreted as accusing them of being a little, err, "slow" . On eBay I simply ask in English, but very simple phrases. While normally marching up to somebody in the street there and blurting out something in English is considered the height of rudeness (and quite why some people think if they yell it or ask is some idiotic accent it makes it better is beyond me), it's a little different in business, and international transactions are normally conducted in English. I guess eBay is a bit of a half-way house, so your introduction is especially polite Bob. As always with you.

"Es tut mir leid aber kann ich Englisch spreche? Mein Deutsch ist (verhangnisvoll schlecht)/(von Ungluck verfolgt)."

Originally Posted by Brobdingnagian

"Es tut mir leid aber kann ich Englisch spreche? Mein Deutsch ist (verhangnisvoll schlecht)/(von Ungluck verfolgt)."

I'm sorry but I can speak English? My German is (bad larly disastrous) / (followed by misfortune)....Google Translate and its shortcomings.

Time to review some options.... here are a few completed Gray's auctions for Wohlhaupter boring and facing heads.... just getting a feel for auction pricing... ebay seems to hover around the $1000-$1500 mark..

Boring and facing head - Wohlhaupter - BT-40 Arbor with 3 tool holders in b Auction (0519-5001315) | GraysOnline Australia


Boring and facing head - Wohlhaupter, single cutter in timber box. (160840- Auction (0121-5001149) | GraysOnline Australia


Boring and facing head - Wohlhaupter NT-40 Arbor with 2 boring bars in box. Auction (0520-5001315) | GraysOnline Australia



Average price at auction seems to be around $300-400.... worth waiting for the right auction

Regards
Ray

Ray I sent Greg a link to one a few weeks back of one to suit a Deckel. He may still have the email? At the time it was about 70 bucks IIRC. No idea what it went for. I reckon more than 70!

Pete

Originally Posted by RayG

Time to review some options.... here are a few completed Gray's auctions for Wohlhaupter boring and facing heads.... just getting a feel for auction pricing... ebay seems to hover around the $1000-$1500 mark..

One of those is what I picked up after missing out on a D'andrea previously, dunno what the Goulburn one was like, both the others had bits missing, one much more than the other. Still haven't used it yet either after a couple of years!

A Chinese head with no feed is the one I'll grab on the infrequent occasions I have need. Unless there's an Aryan agenda , Narex or Kuroda could be added to the list perhaps?

Well, I finally picked up a boring and facing head Fräsmaschine Zubehör Wohlhaupter Ausspindeln Plandrehen Deckel SK40 | eBay

Non removable arbor and SK40 S20x2 buttress thread draw bar, so it will fit the FP2LB and hopefully do exactly what I need, but resale value might be limited to Deckel owners...

I saw a D'Andrea for over $3000 looked pretty good..., and Ken (Toggy) bought over his Mizoguchi, I was very impressed with the Mizoguchi...


Regards
Ray

Congratulations. It looks excellent.

K.

Originally Posted by RayG

Well, I finally picked up a boring and facing head Fräsmaschine Zubehör Wohlhaupter Ausspindeln Plandrehen Deckel SK40 | eBay

Non removable arbor and SK40 S20x2 buttress thread draw bar, so it will fit the FP2LB and hopefully do exactly what I need, but resale value might be limited to Deckel owners...

I saw a D'Andrea for over $3000 looked pretty good..., and Ken (Toggy) bought over his Mizoguchi, I was very impressed with the Mizoguchi...


Regards
Ray

Ray,

Really gone top shelf haven't we.

Should be very nice.

Ken

Hi Ray,
Well done, all I can say is they are very nicely made. I haven't even used mine yet, it is still in bits.....
That one looks very clean and well looked after, should be a joy to use, especially on the deckel.

Cheers
Ew

You've done well ray, I'm sure you'll love it - I've used my UPA3 quite a bit and am continually impressed by what its capable of.
Also recently picked up an assortment of fine little "Komet" boring & circlip grooving bars which only adds to it's versatility.

I have not been able to put it to use yet, but it is a stunning piece of tooling. We were a little surprised to see that it is the removable arbour as it was asked if it was fixed or removable and was answers it was fixed.

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Rather then start a new thread, I think a few people here own a UPA3, they might be able to help this person out.. My only experience is with the UPA4 which is totally different.

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...return-285697/