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16th July 2015, 09:58 PM #1Senior Member
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WTB: old diesel welder
g'day,
looking for a mobile welding machine.
does anyone know of one going to wast?
lincoln put out welder generators and stand alone diesel/ petrol welders in the past.
doesnt have to be running, just something I can do up and use.
in the United States the popular models are SA200, SA250, SAE300 etc etc so probably similar here.
any likely candidates considered.
regards meadow.
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16th July 2015, 10:11 PM #2Pink 10EE owner
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How many amps do you want...
Lincoln built many models locally over the decades..
Generally around 225 amps upwards starting with the ubiquitous tractapack pto model, then the lincwelder 225 amp petrol or diesel version..
The most common would probably have been the AS400 400 amp, which morphed into AS400-50 which had 50Hz 240V output as well (the earlier AS400, AS500 etc were all 60Hz)
They also made a AS500 and the SAM400 which was a CC/CV model with I think 600 amp output..
Since the mining downturn there has been heaps and heaps and heaps and heaps of engine welders come up for sale..
With the lincolns the duty cycle at flat out is pretty low... 10% or thereabouts...
Miller have made many models over the years as well... The most common probably the 225 bobcat, their 240V output is 60Hz though...
I have a lincoln AS400 for the big stuff that rarely gets used these days and a Miller Bluestar DX 185 amp that gets used all the time, but the Bluestars are very rare in Australia..Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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16th July 2015, 10:33 PM #3I break stuff...
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lincoln-W...item463e18d7b7
There's normally a handful on Ebay at any one time, with wildly varied prices....
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16th July 2015, 11:13 PM #4Senior Member
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amps
j and H and RC,
the 400 is as big as a would go realistically.......I'd mount it on a trailer probably, as I don't have a mini truck lifter yet.
ive got my eye on a 225 petrol, but think it will go to dear.
missed a ripper recently being too slow on eBay
just hoping someone might might have one in a shed or something and could use some $ and see it go to a good home.
thanks for the link on the Lombardi too.
if anyone hears or knows of anything then please let me know
ps. just on the 60 Hz , what impact does this have ?
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17th July 2015, 12:06 AM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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years ago I had a trailer mounted welder with V4 Wisconsin engine, THIRSTY ON THE JUICE ! to be honest I reckon for most stick welding a small (in size) 200 amp DC inverter welder and a small 6 kva generator would kill that great big monstrosity
Unless you want to do alot of welding like hard facing buckets ects.
I also had a tractor pack, was good to weld with but like all these big petrol guzzlers they are hard to move around, you need massive leads if you can't get close to the job, if your working at height you need to tie the leads or have a TA to hold them up because they are so heavy.
Sorry, I didn't mean to rain on the parade so to speak, I just thought I'd pass on some bad memories
shed
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17th July 2015, 12:36 AM #6Senior Member
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that's cool
that's cool shed, I get the practicalities bit.
small inverters are great aren't they?
i'm a bit if a collector at heart : )
would love an Sa200, but the closest I've seen in Australia was a Sa200 junior, which had a Honda motor strapped to it..........instead of the continental/Wisconsin/ Perkins it would have had originally.
the weldanpower is probably the most widely available in the engine driven department, but would love something unusual to turn up.
keep your eyes peeled
oh, a cv option would be heaven !
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17th July 2015, 08:24 AM #7Philomath in training
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I agree with Shed, in that if you did not need the extra amps I'd tend to go with the genny and separate welder. Most welder instruction manuals have a recommendation on what size generator should be used (my 250A inverter recommends 8kVa I think). At least that way if one bit breaks you are not totally without resources and if you want to upgrade later you have easier resale.
60 Hz will have some effect or no effect depending on what you are driving. A straight motor will go faster by 20%. If electronic devices are simple and convert to DC it may not worry them. On the other hand if they use the frequency to do something it will throw that bit out. Again from memory I think that with things like motors because they turn faster they also get hotter. Check the specs but most reputable welders built for international markets won't have a problem.
Michael
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17th July 2015, 11:41 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I know where there is one, but probably waaaay to big for what you want. Has a couple of 3ph plugs on it, Perkins diesel motor, on its own trailer $4000, in Murray Bridge.
Kryn
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17th July 2015, 11:46 PM #9Senior Member
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4k
thanks Kryn,
never too big if the price is right
try try and beat him down : )
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18th July 2015, 12:11 AM #10GOLD MEMBER
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