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    :eek: How many of you folk working with powertools and timber in the workshop actually have the appropriate fire extinguisher handy moreover for that heavy stationary sawbench etc?

    Recently had the misfortune of the saw function motor on my combination bench go up in flames...hells bells ...no extinguisher ..panic noooo but had to isolate power source and use hose which also had to be sourced from some distance.

    Time to change tack here and think about fire extinguisher..readily handy and capable of dealing at least with electrical fires.
    EXPENSE?,don't know yet about the fire extinguisher but the motor was quoted something like $498 + GST,(insurance may allay some of that )a hefty lesson but the damage may have been able to be minimised with an extinguisher to lay hands on.

    So I guess the question lies in bein' like a boy scout an "being prepared" particularly with the wood dust that can get into anything no matter how good your dust collection system.

    STAY SAFE work happy!

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    I have a small one which used to be in my old caravan. I'll just have to remember where I put the bloody thing. :eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Saxton
    :eek: How many of you folk working with powertools and timber in the workshop actually have the appropriate fire extinguisher handy moreover for that heavy stationary sawbench etc?

    Recently had the misfortune of the saw function motor on my combination bench go up in flames...hells bells ...no extinguisher ..panic noooo but had to isolate power source and use hose which also had to be sourced from some distance.

    Time to change tack here and think about fire extinguisher..readily handy and capable of dealing at least with electrical fires.
    EXPENSE?,don't know yet about the fire extinguisher but the motor was quoted something like $498 + GST,(insurance may allay some of that )a hefty lesson but the damage may have been able to be minimised with an extinguisher to lay hands on.

    So I guess the question lies in bein' like a boy scout an "being prepared" particularly with the wood dust that can get into anything no matter how good your dust collection system.

    STAY SAFE work happy!

    Cheers
    G'day John,

    I've given this matter some thought, and partly because of the variety of potential incendiary sources, and partly because I'm a mean bugger when I'm not buying tools , I've laid on the old faithful: a couple of buckets of fine, dry sand!

    I suppose that the most likely cause of fire is probably electrical in nature, but with all sorts of solvents and whatnot in the shed, not to mention quite a bit of wood , one type of extinguisher probably wouldn't cut it.

    I'd be intrerested to hear what other BB lurkers think (those of them that do, that is )

    Cheers!

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    If you call Wormald, a rep will call round & tell ya what ya need. If you are really nice to him he can give you very good prices!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorPanic
    If you call Wormald, a rep will call round & tell ya what ya need. If you are really nice to him he can give you very good prices!
    Thanks Major,

    That's an excellent idea, will do!

    I'd hate to think that my insurance could be voided (by the way did you ever see "The Man who Sued God" with Billy Connelly (sp?) - an absolute hoot!)

    Cheers!

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    john
    Not only do you need one in the shed but also in the house
    Don't fit them in the dangerous space ie kitchen but adjacent to the door just outside the room
    This is more dificult in a shed and inside the most used entry point is proberly the best place. One at each door is better.
    Most important make sure you and all your family know how to use the extinguisher have seen plenty of people who thought they could operate an extinguisher fall at the post. Have seen pictures of a burnt out car with three extinguishers that were thrown into the fire because people didn't know what to do with them.
    The general home type are Dry Powder these are used in a sweeping motion aimed at the base of the fire they don't last long so get it right the first time
    Extinguishers cost from around $25 up
    Every 2-3 months take extinguisher and shake well espically if in an area of vibration
    Every 5-8 years replace and with the old ones have a little fire drill of your own where you let the kids or SHMBO let the old one off choose a good spot for this as the powder makes a mess


    More than 40% of injuries from household fires still come from people putting water on burning oil.
    Thus you need an extinguisher and you should also have a fire blanket in your kitchen by the exit

    People will spend a fortune on their house or shed toys let alone the cost of a life, and still balk at spending $25 on an extinguisher. Its like putting in a sound system , tv, computer etc and not paying $100 for a surge protected power board.

    An even more dangerous area is a caravan , tent, camper trailor

    I have 5 portable extinguishers in the house , shed & camper trailor, which you may think is overkill but when you have seen two major engine room fires on ships and put out 5-6 in galleys and accomodation you see how quickly and easily they start and the damage they can do in a very short period of time. And how quickly they can be put out with a simple extinguisher before they get big enough to do much damage then you too will install some





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    We have one just outside the kitchen, and one just inside the garage door.

    I hadn't considered that they may be up for replacement - using the old ones for a fire drill is a top idea!!

    Cheers,
    Andrew

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    I have 2 extinguishers in the workshop fixed onto the wall at convenient locations, one in the garage on the wall near the door and one in the kitchen as well as a fire blanket.

    Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashore
    john
    Not only do you need one in the shed but also in the house
    Don't fit them in the dangerous space ie kitchen but adjacent to the door just outside the room
    This is more dificult in a shed and inside the most used entry point is proberly the best place. One at each door is better.
    Most important make sure you and all your family know how to use the extinguisher have seen plenty of people who thought they could operate an extinguisher fall at the post. Have seen pictures of a burnt out car with three extinguishers that were thrown into the fire because people didn't know what to do with them.
    The general home type are Dry Powder these are used in a sweeping motion aimed at the base of the fire they don't last long so get it right the first time
    Extinguishers cost from around $25 up
    Every 2-3 months take extinguisher and shake well espically if in an area of vibration
    Every 5-8 years replace and with the old ones have a little fire drill of your own where you let the kids or SHMBO let the old one off choose a good spot for this as the powder makes a mess


    More than 40% of injuries from household fires still come from people putting water on burning oil.
    Thus you need an extinguisher and you should also have a fire blanket in your kitchen by the exit

    People will spend a fortune on their house or shed toys let alone the cost of a life, and still balk at spending $25 on an extinguisher. Its like putting in a sound system , tv, computer etc and not paying $100 for a surge protected power board.

    An even more dangerous area is a caravan , tent, camper trailor

    I have 5 portable extinguishers in the house , shed & camper trailor, which you may think is overkill but when you have seen two major engine room fires on ships and put out 5-6 in galleys and accomodation you see how quickly and easily they start and the damage they can do in a very short period of time. And how quickly they can be put out with a simple extinguisher before they get big enough to do much damage then you too will install some





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    Ashore,

    Sound advice,

    I think my couple of buckets of sand will stay, but be reinforced with one or two CO2 and /or maybe dry powder types.

    From the earlier post, I'll take advice from an expert. I'd suggest that we all do!

    Cheers!

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    Good idea. The fire can come from an unlikely source - I was resawing with my brand new 14" Jet, and had only done about 10lm of 90mm boards, when I could smell THAT smell; hot burny electric bits :eek: . Turned it off and (maybe foolishly) opened the cabinet door. Lots of smoke, too hot to touch, and only moments away from real drama.

    While it was cooling I looked for the extinguisher that I knew was on the shelf nearby. That was 2 weeks ago and I still haven't found it! The saw was full of dust, within 1m of my workbench and the timber wall....things would have been sad had she gone up.

    Jet are replacing the motor (which started a few times, then tripped the RCD :eek. Lesson learned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashore
    john
    Not only do you need one in the shed but also in the house
    Don't fit them in the dangerous space ie kitchen but adjacent to the door just outside the room
    This is more dificult in a shed and inside the most used entry point is proberly the best place. One at each door is better.
    Most important make sure you and all your family know how to use the extinguisher have seen plenty of people who thought they could operate an extinguisher fall at the post. Have seen pictures of a burnt out car with three extinguishers that were thrown into the fire because people didn't know what to do with them.
    Good advise from Russell

    Maybe a fire blanket could also be included.

    The normal shed has more than enough potential hot spots without adding the woodworking.

    I think the local fire station will also do an appraisal as they do with smoke detectors

    Sam

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    I've got an aerosol extinguisher from a local hardware.
    Comes with a mounting bracket and cost about $20, for memory it's dry powder and about 800g.
    Fixed on the wall near the main door, never been off yet, and hope it stays where it is.
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    Just keep drinking heaps of beer.........
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    If you are really nice to him he can give you very good prices!
    Umm, exactly what form does this niceness take, Major?

    Not to detract from the idea - but I'd be looking at an ounce of prevention too. Did you establish what exactly caused your saw's motor to burst into flames? That's not exactly behaviour by design. Faulty motor? Dust on the windings perhaps?
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    No - I think it's on the slow boat to Taiwan, to get checked out.
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