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    Default Half face P2/P3 or equivalent mask / filters not made in China

    Hey all,
    As above. Can anyone suggest any masks and/or replacement filters that do not manufacture in China? I have asked 3M and their response has been extremely cagey, any others I should take a look at?

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    Good luck with that...

    Just out of curiosity (and you don't have to answer), is this a political, economic or quality based request?

    EDIT: Well, apparently it wasn't as hard to find as I thought; mask made in Poland, filters made in USA 3M Mask respirator and P2 Filter pack | Seton Australia Finding something that's actually in stock however...

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    Seems a bit that way.

    Mostly quality but it is a result of the changing political landscape. I have first hand experience of how the CCP is dealing with manufacturing of "foreign" goods, especially goods in demand in the past 12 months and it's terrible. You'd be shocked how bad it has become, so I am looking for alternatives.

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    From a post in Redit
    Medical masks NOT made in China? : avoidchineseproducts


    A list of face mask brands made anywhere but China (thanks to this poster by Team Yellow Economic Circle):
    • 3M (N95 - Model 8210, Nexcare series only)
    • Against24
    • Banale
    • Banitore
    • Blue Eagle (children N95, planar face mask, 3D face mask only)
    • Comfort
    • Cross Protection
    • Crosstex
    • CSD
    • Halyard
    • Haofa
    • KOKUBO
    • Kowa
    • Medicom (certain masks only)
    • Nask
    • Nepia
    • Pigeon
    • PITTA
    • Probo
    • Tricare
    • UdiLife
    • Unicharm
    • Watsons (N95, anti-ultraviolet only)
    Good luck at finding any.

    This may also be of use
    Counterfeit Respirators / Misrepresentation of NIOSH-Approval | NPPTL | NIOSH | CDC

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    I saw that post but many of them assemble outside of China but still use the filters made there. I'm still waiting for another response from 3M, will update from there.

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    BTW just because the Package sAYS "NOT MADE IN CHINA" doesn't means much.
    Chances are the filter media will still be made in china.

    There is a prototype "woollen filter" media that has recently been invented and made in Australia.
    It's supposed to be very efficient and reusable.
    Not sure where they are with the production - next year mate!!!

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    Yes, Bobl, I am very aware of that fact - this is why I am asking. Many companies are getting cagey with how they represent Chinese made components, especially these days. Asking the local experts first Got a link for that woolen media at all? I'd be interested in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DunningKruger View Post
    Yes, Bobl, I am very aware of that fact - this is why I am asking. Many companies are getting cagey with how they represent Chinese made components, especially these days. Asking the local experts first Got a link for that woolen media at all? I'd be interested in that.

    There are plenty of wool masks out there (some will even say they are not N95 or P2 masks) but these are not the ones I and referring to. The filter media was announced just week or two ago. I think it was CSIRO and some uni's - its still in the prototype stage.

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    I just looked at my box of Miniso supposedly Japanese surgical which I have tested and they are indeed very good masks.

    On the box it says in large print:
    Manufactured for : Miniso Japan
    Designed by : Miniso Japan

    And in very fine print at the bottom of the box:
    Made in China!

    I believe Australia's only mask manufacturer also uses media made in china.

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    Can say with some certainty that quite a lot of 3M's respiratory protection products are made in China - especially the product that comes to Australia, I know that a lot of product that two 40 foot containers that were about to leave China for Australia were re-directed to the U.S. under Trump's war effort legislation or whatever it was called.

    I can't be 100% sure but I think that you would be fairly safe with Sundstrom filters not being made in China.

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    Indeed. 3M's claims the units are produced in US or EU. My reply was to question if any components, specifically the filter medium, are manufactured in China for the products available in AU. I am awaiting a reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DunningKruger View Post
    Seems a bit that way.

    Mostly quality but it is a result of the changing political landscape. I have first hand experience of how the CCP is dealing with manufacturing of "foreign" goods, especially goods in demand in the past 12 months and it's terrible. You'd be shocked how bad it has become, so I am looking for alternatives.
    Can you clarify the CCP acronym please to add some context to your reply. Clinical Care Protection??? Procurement??

    Thankyou for raising this query, interesting to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyturns View Post
    Can you clarify the CCP acronym please to add some context to your reply. Clinical Care Protection??? Procurement??

    Thankyou for raising this query, interesting to follow.
    I'd assumed given the context, Chinese Communist Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DunningKruger View Post
    Indeed. 3M's claims the units are produced in US or EU. My reply was to question if any components, specifically the filter medium, are manufactured in China for the products available in AU. I am awaiting a reply.
    This story Trump and 3M reach deal to allow N95 face masks to be exported to Canada | World news | The Guardian sourced from the Guardian suggests that 3M brand N95 masks manufactured in the US using Canadian pulp in the filter are exported into Canada and Latin America, the rest of the world (including NZ? & Australia?) is supplied from 3M plants in China.


    I think "good luck" getting an Australian supplier of the filter material.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Here is a picture of the CSIRO wool filter

    filter1.jpg

    Here is the inventor
    https://blog.csiro.au/meet-the-resea...r-jurg-schutz/

    As usual production will probably be shifted off shore

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