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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
    You're far more likely to be injured by a kickback than getting cut by a blade, although a cut may be more severe. A guard will protect you if a mishap happens, but a riving knife and a correctly set fence will remove the cause of a kickback.
    Interestingly that's not the case based on the TS stats on the website I linked to above where kickbacks represent about half of the the 280 Injuries reported by TS use.

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    I wonder how many more shop injuries there will be once we're all locked in.

    4 or 8 weeks of workshop time DOESN'T sound like a great idea!

    Wheezing, sore bones, tired muscles, clagged lungs, coughing, blood and guts ..... poor A&E, for then are the flu victims to attend to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    I wonder how many more shop injuries there will be once we're all locked in.

    4 or 8 weeks of workshop time DOESN'T sound like a great idea!

    Wheezing, sore bones, tired muscles, clagged lungs, coughing, blood and guts ..... poor A&E, for then are the flu victims to attend to!
    I can't wait, 6 weeks of being unable to stand up because I felt there was something wrong with my ankle and being wrongly diagnosed with gout, and then 6 weeks in a moonboot. Bring it on. Problem is the Honey Do list has blown out so I won't get much time in the shed.

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    Pleased to say, bruising is subsiding and I'm about reconnect with my saw and get back in the program. My ELU saw I have had for over 20 years and is a flip saw, so when in normal position a docking saw and when flipped over a table saw. I had decided to utilise my saw as a designated table saw, as I have my other docking saw and do not feel the need to purchase another saw. That aside, I'm not going to go over what I did wrong - TRUST me that is positively cemented in the grey matter.

    Yesterday I went looking for my riving knife, now one would have figured it would be with the other saw accessories. 5 hours later, going through all my boxes (still unpacking from our move). I can say I found 25 + screw drivers, 3 claw hammers, 7 Stanley knifes, 3 secateurs, 6 shifters, 6 more clamps and a host of other things, but no riving knife. So decided to buy one of course that's not an option GEEEZZZ $70.00.
    Decided I will make one along with a few correct push sticks down the man shed. Found a design for a riving knife from the same saw so will cut out a 3 mm template out of MDF and check for size and accuracy.
    My question is the thickness of the knife. I Looked on UTube for information for this, boy some people just talk for the sake of taking before they get to the point and some don't answer the question then lol. Basically what I get, is the knife is to be thicker than the blade and thinner that the teeth. The teeth on my saw blade are tungsten so I was going to make the knife just a smidge under the thickness of my teeth, not sure what a smidge will be yet.

    Any other thoughts on this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian45 View Post
    My question is the thickness of the knife. I Looked on UTube for information for this, boy some people just talk for the sake of taking before they get to the point and some don't answer the question then lol. Basically what I get, is the knife is to be thicker than the blade and thinner that the teeth. The teeth on my saw blade are tungsten so I was going to make the knife just a smidge under the thickness of my teeth, not sure what a smidge will be yet.

    Any other thoughts on this one?
    Don't go too close to the tooth thickness or you might find it binds too easily. I believe the riving knife on the panel saw at my old work was 2.5mm thick for a standard 2.2/3.2mm body/kerf blade.

    That being said, you can always make it thinner if you need to.

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    The ELU riving knife on my saw is 2.1 mm.

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    My old man and I have built about a hundred sliding table saws over the years, we used to build 5 at a time and a machinery agent in Sydney would sell them. We got the riving knives cut and surface ground at an engineering shop in Wollongong and they were about $60 each. A good saw doctor should be able to sort one out for you. The one I have now on my panel saw is chrome plated it works really well. If someone has an Elu saw, ask them to borrow the knife to make a template. Those flip saws were great we had several as site saws when we had the big joinery shop, very handy.

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    Really need to see if I can find some way to fit a riving knife to my old Jet, it came with a splitter and plastic guard but the splitter is a damned liability. It's so floppy and misaligned that it causes more problems that it solves so it's usually off. It does force me to slow down a lot though, yesterday I wanted to rip some 25mm sections for picture frames but decided to wait till I can build or buy a thin ripping jig.

    Might just work on looking for a more modern replacement and convert the Jet to a crosscutting or dado station. I'm a software developer, I need my fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bueller View Post
    Really need to see if I can find some way to fit a riving knife to my old Jet, it came with a splitter and plastic guard but the splitter is a damned liability. It's so floppy and misaligned that it causes more problems that it solves so it's usually off. It does force me to slow down a lot though, yesterday I wanted to rip some 25mm sections for picture frames but decided to wait till I can build or buy a thin ripping jig.

    Might just work on looking for a more modern replacement and convert the Jet to a crosscutting or dado station. I'm a software developer, I need my fingers.
    I have 10" jet with the old separate splitter. The whole set up with guard drove me nuts. In the end I got a Sharkguard replacement and it in cluded 3 splitters, one for guardless use.

    How to Determine Splitter or Riving Knife Thickness – Shark Guard

    It was not cheap but it really is the bees knees.

    YMMV

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    Actually currently trying to talk myself out of upgrading this week. I'm going to sleep on it tonight but I can't see the upgrade getting any cheaper with the way our dollar is falling against the USD.

    I've gotten a good couple of years out if the JET and its served me well but the horrible fence and lack of modern safety features have been more and more evident now that I'm doing more fine work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohdan View Post
    The ELU riving knife on my saw is 2.1 mm.

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    What model did that come off - I'm sure mine looked a bit different, mind you I'm relying on memory, a dangerous area to engage with lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian45 View Post
    What model did that come off - I'm sure mine looked a bit different, mind you I'm relying on memory, a dangerous area to engage with lol.

    Most likely the TGS 173 from 1995 but it could be off the earlier TGS 172 as I have had both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohdan View Post
    Most likely the TGS 173 from 1995 but it could be off the earlier TGS 172 as I have had both.
    I just checked my saw, model is a 172, damn good saw, I thought the Elu saws were french made mine says West Germany, close I guess. The riving knife on the net is showing different to your one. I guess either way as long at it fits correctly and is correct in width should work fine. Now to make one.

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    That knife that I showed must be from the 172. The 173 has a knife mounted blade guard that fits on the knife via a mounting hole.

    I would use the later type as you can still get the saw guards but they are branded Dewalt.

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    That's interesting Elan. Just ordered one of Carbitool's premium rip blades for my Laguna Platinum which has a riving knife that is 2.5mm. I mostly use 3.2mm kerf blades but Carbitool's blade is 2.8mm and when I asked if I had enough clearance the guy assured me 0.3mm would be no problem. Hope he's right!

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