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29th December 2008, 09:58 PM #1
I've hit the tru Stone again
This Tru Stone thing is getting highly addictive.
When I first started working with it a few weeks ago, I didn't do much research on Tru Stone. I didn't really know what it was, only that it would produce a magnificent looking pen. The stone sort of like fell into my lap, so I took it as it came - not really caring about the success.
This meant that I was up for a tough battle ahead of me. I really hated the stuff. I couldn't drill without shattering the blank. I could turn it without blowing the stuff out. I could turn it with burning my fingers.
Now I have come to love the stuff. Once you work with it for a while and you get to understand the stone, it truly is amazing stuff. I still have the problem with the dust and the blue and green dust coating every surface of the workshop, but the end result is well worth it.
Green Cigar kit. Sanded to 2,000 grit wet and dry. Brasso then automotive polish and wax.
Again I am really happy with the result. I have the blue one all glued up for another cigar tomorrow.
Thanks for the comments in advance.
Timberbits.
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29th December 2008, 10:04 PM #2
Looks like a winner. Congratulations on mastering the Trustone. Had the same problems drilling the stuff until I started cutting my blanks long, not drilling the whole way through, and then trimming the end off the blank to reveal the through hole. Seems they didn't crack until the drill bit exited the material (at least, in my case).
When all is said and done, there is usually a whole lot more said than done.
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29th December 2008, 10:13 PM #3
TB good looking pen, I still dont quite know what it is apart from some sort of stone.
David
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29th December 2008, 10:47 PM #4
"TruStone is a beautiful material made from a combination of crushed semi-precious stones, combined with other natural pigments and materials which are then subjected to tremendous heat and pressure. This results in a material still "hard as a rock" but workable with a lathe. It has the look and the cool feel of stone, and is difficult to distinguish from the real stone. The results of a pen made with this material is one that has a nice heft to it, a brilliant sheen and texture and an interesting appearance."
source - http://www.go-authentic.com/pens/trustone-pens.html
I think that might answer you question.
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29th December 2008, 10:53 PM #5
My experience is there is 2 things you must do for a successful drilling operation.
1. Sharpen your drill bit before you begin, no matter how sharp you think you drill bit is, sharpen it (took mine down to carbatec for a demonstration on the drill doctor. Thinking about buy one now even though the price is ridiculously expensive)
2. Only drill 3mm, lift the drill bit out of the blank, add a squirt of water into the hole then repeat the process. That means for a 60mm blank, it takes about 20 - 30 lifting of the drill bit.
3. After you drill your blank, sharpen your drill bit again to do the other blank.
And yes, cut your blanks about 5 - 10mm longer than the brass tube in case of tear when the drill bit exits the blank.
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29th December 2008, 10:57 PM #6
Thanks for that TB, what type of drill bit do you use?
David
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29th December 2008, 11:31 PM #7
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30th December 2008, 07:39 AM #8Skwair2rownd
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30th December 2008, 08:47 AM #9
Well done David, another great looking pen that green looks really good.
You and Al are spot on with what you say working the blank, especially this type.
I did my first yesterday see the post when I get the picture. Cracked the second half of the first blank even with all care sharp drill and lots of water.
Anyway I got the pen turned a Jr Gent FP and it looks great, I had to keep the grinder running as it took the edge off very fast. This stuff is much harder than the other Tru_stone I have turned it really needs a water lubricant even when turning, the polish is immediate.
Must stop rambling and take a picture
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30th December 2008, 09:24 PM #10
TB have you tried a masonry drill bit?
David
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30th December 2008, 09:36 PM #11
A masonry drill in my experience is more about pounding the crap out of the masonry. That is why you have to put the drill on hammer mode for it to work. Experiment may prove me wrong, but I believe if I put a masonry drill bit in to do the drilling, it will surely lead to a blow out.
I think this stuff should be treated like my 3 month old daughter, with lots of love, patients and care. At the end of it all, end up with something/someone you can proudly show to all your friends.
Timberbits.
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30th December 2008, 09:49 PM #12
I have used them many times with out the hammer drill and works fine, but it is up to the individual.
David
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30th December 2008, 11:20 PM #13
Reading through all this ,I would think a properly ground masonry drill would be ideal. If you can drill with high speed steel, then a masonary drill should eat it .You would need to possibly take some off the side clearance of the carbide bit as they are not really accurate in normal usage, you would need to get the dia as close as possible to the flute diameter for guidance once you get in a bit,find the right cutting speed and pressure ,and keep it wet. I see that "simo" is onto this stuff as well hehe,maybe he can check it out (or you could send me a scrap too short for anything and I will try it ) could then check if it will turn with carbide as well hehe.
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