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    This is another attempt at using Red Fir bark as a material for a pen.

    This one came up with its own new set of particular issues.

    Bonding to the brass tube has been a big problem but appears to be history as I'm using Sumo PU glue and not one tear out on the last few.

    Because the light part is very soft (like balsa) and the dark is wood it's hard to turn smooth.

    Also, if the soft end is on the nib or final and you try to square the blank, the wood peels like dead skin and you have a void to fix.

    No matter what I did I couldn't fill the voids (usually do a slurry paste fill) so they were smooth enough to apply a finish so I dipped in Lacquer.

    After 15 dips and there were still some small voids I gave up and put it together as I was concerned it would be to thick and not fir properly.

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    Looks ok to me
    It is nice looking bark and Worth the effort to get it right well done
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    Looks good from here , definately a contender for some form of stabilising ,some of the spalted woods are like that, soft and hard mixes ,a bit frustrating at times , all credit for perservering and producing such a lovely result. Cheers ~ John
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum Pig View Post
    Looks ok to me
    It is nice looking bark and Worth the effort to get it right well done
    Thank you Mr Rum ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gawdelpus View Post
    Looks good from here , definately a contender for some form of stabilising ,some of the spalted woods are like that, soft and hard mixes ,a bit frustrating at times , all credit for perservering and producing such a lovely result. Cheers ~ John
    Thanks ... my wife says I'm too picky ...

    Oh ... I did stabilize it with the Ultraseal version II. It's still a problem child at times.

    I have so many rings that are useless because of large voids and beetle tracks I'm going to try some worthless wood casting in some Aluminite I have here.

    I need to find a hole saw that is smaller that I can still get the bark out of without a lot of prying and pushing with an awl.

    I saw these Pro-Fit arbors but can't find who was carrying them here in the States now ...
    https://pga1.readyhosting.com/ProFitMPDrillDropE.asp

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    The pen looks impressive and worth the effort, is that bark common here in Australia?? maybe raid the botanical gardens! Amos
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    Man I like what you have done. It is a good kit to use to show of the wood. Well done.
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    Ron
    Nice work, I really like it
    Could you fill the odd low spot with ca, let dry and then dip?

    Amos
    I believe there are douglas fir plantations in Aus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodenink View Post
    The pen looks impressive and worth the effort, is that bark common here in Australia?? maybe raid the botanical gardens! Amos
    Thank you Amos ...

    I'd never heard of Doug Fir being called 'Red Fir' until I worked in Idaho.

    From Wikipedia -
    'It is a high altitude tree, typically occurring at 1,400-2,700 m altitude, though only rarely reaching tree line.

    The name Red Fir derives from the bark color of old trees.

    In Australia, the common Douglas Fir is known as "Oregon" timber.
    '

    So you do have them somewhere in that vast land of yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_pnevans View Post
    Man I like what you have done. It is a good kit to use to show of the wood. Well done.
    David
    Thanks David.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    Ron
    Nice work, I really like it
    Thanks Nick ..
    Could you fill the odd low spot with ca, let dry and then dip?
    I don't know how CA and lacquer react together.

    With the bark turned down to finish sized I make a large puddle of CA on a piece of sandpaper and then apply it to the wood to make slurry paste to fill the voids.

    With this particular pen there is a lot. The lighter colored wood is very soft and peels while the darker is hard like wood.

    What I did this time on this pen was use Mylands Sanding Sealer and then fill the voids.

    I'm not sure if I can take a dip or two and see the areas that need attention and then use CA on top of the lacquer or not.

    I can try and see ... this is all an experiment to make something from local timbers.
    Amos I believe there are douglas fir plantations in Aus
    I answered to Amos ... not sure where but you do have them.

    I know you have this wonderful Huron Pine timber ... how thick is that bark?

    I've used 'Bull Pine' or Ponderosa Pine which is also common here.

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    Good looking pen there Ron, well done.

    Only bark I have worked with so far is the bark of the Red Ironbark tree we have lots of around here. Some of that bark gets to 3-4 inches thick and parts of it are almost as hard as the timber itself.

    I just stabilised it with CA and then finished with CA, in fact one of the pens I made with it now resides in Indiana-US as it was for a pen swap.

    I'll try and find a picture and point you to it.

    I have also stabilised some by casting in PR, but haven't turned those yet. Too many ideas, too little time!

    Edit:

    Couldn't find the post from the pen swap, have uploaded a picture in my album

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/album....pictureid=2743

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    Ron, there WAS one, but last seen was a crazy pen turner with chainsaw going wild!!! Amos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodenink View Post
    Ron, there WAS one, but last seen was a crazy pen turner with chainsaw going wild!!! Amos
    Must have been in FTG then

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    Great looking pen Ron, well done.

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