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    Default Second Pen Just Completed

    Was off work with a bad head cold today but improved enough to head out and finish my second pen.

    Same kit, same lump of camphor but cut from closer to the centre (see my first pen post), sanded to 1200 then hit with Ultra shine and 4 coats of shellwax to try get a better shine.

    The grain in the pen posed another question. As each half blank is drilled seperately, if the holes are not in the exact same spot on each then the grain may not match up (see pic 3). This got me thinking, why hasnt anyone come up with a method of drilling the full lenth and cutting after? I'm guessing that a special long set of drill bits would be required but with the number of ppl doing pens surely there's a ready market.

    Please excuse the picture quality, they are being taken with the digital equivilent of a box browny

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    Hey David,

    Not a bad pen, as I figgered out long ago, everybody 'Started out' once and you only get better as time goes on, your imagination will take over one day and you will be doing stuff that, at this stage of your career, you will think is out of the park. Keep going mate it only gets better from here. Them head colds don't help do they?

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    Congratulations David, Looks good to me.
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    Cheers John

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    Thumbs up

    Aha! YOu , my friend are certainly hooked. Already looking for better ways to do things.

    That is a nice pen. Well done.

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    Now David,
    You must stop now, or you'll become obsessed with pens.
    (I reckon he's a gone coon already)

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    Yep its all to late. I was at mates yesterday and scavenged some off cuts for about 50 more pens. Already made a couple 15 deg blanks out of a bit of red cedar, shame its so cold or I'd be out there turning now.

    Its a pity I dont have a better camera and had a clue about photography as that 2nd pen looks much nicer IRL even if it is a basic slimline.

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    David, new to pens myself in fact any woodwork hehe! but I use a marker pen to make a parrallel line in the blank then either number or alphabetisize if that a word on each end of the line,When I cut them to length I only leave about 1/16 extra length on each blank,more if you are not too sure of how your equipment will go squaring the ends to length later. I cut the first blank off to length then I square off the second bit at the cut end and cut it off to length at the other end from centre. So result is only a bandsaw cut out of the blank grain and a very small amount off the joining faces. When I drill I make sure the marked faces ,which is the centre of your original piece,both face me in my drill jig ,and drill from that point towards either end of blank.Result is that if the drill runs out a bit ,and it can, both your holes start in the centre of your pen at the same place and will almost always be in line at your join, the small bit missing is taken up by the band. Also I insert my tubes from the centre out and only just have them inside the blank enough for a small cleanup.Damn this takes a lot longer to explain than actually do it ,Hope I have not confused you too much hehe, cheers ,And happy turning.

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    Looking good, Dave, keep it up!

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidW View Post
    This got me thinking, why hasnt anyone come up with a method of drilling the full lenth and cutting after?
    I suspect it would be too long and as the drill follows the grain of a blank it may start to wallow out parts of the blank and possibly snap the drill bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidW View Post
    Please excuse the picture quality, they are being taken with the digital equivilent of a box browny
    I've just posted a blog of some photo tips I posted a couple of years ago (blatent attempt to try and get people using the blogs more). You might find some of it helpful and looking at your pics my two early suggestions are get more light on the subject and you might be getting too close to the subject without using the macro function (if your camera has it).

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    Welcome to the madness!! 2nd pen ... just the beginning. At least your timber should help clear the head as it's turned .. it smells great!

    JD
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    You're hooked now!!
    Keep up the good work!

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    David i see an improvement already, looks like you made the grade!Amos
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    David, coming along nicely. The Camphor would help the head cold too, I love the smell of it on the lathe.

    Gawdelpus has given you a lot of good tips for maintaining the grain in the two barrels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    David, coming along nicely. The Camphor would help the head cold too, I love the smell of it on the lathe.

    Gawdelpus has given you a lot of good tips for maintaining the grain in the two barrels.
    Agreed, I'll try Gawdelpus's tips for the next pen Friday arvo, thats twice ive had an issue and the fix has been simple and best of all free

    I'm not really happy with the finish using shellwax but i'm sure its something im doing wrong, i'll try a different cloth and a few more coats on the next pen.

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    David,
    Nice looking pen. I really like the grain in that wood. As for the finish, I recommend reading all the posts and seeing how others do their finish, and try them all until you find one that suits you.

    Rick

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    Hi again david as I am new to all this I have only tried shellawax myself. but the trick I'm told is most people use too much to start, I use it like "Brylcreem" a litle dab will do ya' hehe
    I just wipe it on with the lathe stopped along the grain and make sure there is no excess, then I am spinning at about 1500 rpm and get it hot enough to bond into the surface ,it is a friction polish so it does take heat to get it working ,the shine comes up pretty quick ,and you can add another coat if you like after that,it's a bit of trial and error ,and may not be as long lasting as some of the other possible finishes,but leaves the wood with a nice smooth feel ,very tactile But like all things experience is the best teacher ,I now use u,beaut eeultra shine to fine cut the wood before the shellawax,as its a very fine abrasive and does prepare the surface after sanding to an even smoother finish, have fun it will get easier as you go.

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