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4th January 2010, 09:52 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Does a pen need to be flat?
Hi Folks,
One thing that's giving me complications with my polymer clay pens is whether to turn them or not. I can roll them pretty close to finished and get a nice smooth, all be it slightly bumpy surface (which I'm sure will improve over time) straight from the over. To get a more uniformly sized blank, I'm then turning iti on the lathe.
However, turning has a few issues
1. The relatively soft material can tear in spots, whether due to softness or airpockets in the roll, I'm not sure
2. The finish after turning is rougher than after hand forming. While you can sand & finish on the lathe, it doesn't seem to be as well finished as straight out the oven. It is glossier after turning and finishing, but the actual texture itself looks pitted/rough compared to before turning
3. The nice finished pattern you see after baking can be ruined by turning, especially now that I'm looking to make Faux Stone finishes. Fort example, a design using poppy seeds as inclusions to simulate granite can look great out of the oven, but then turn it and cut into the black poppy seeds to reveal white interior will completely ruin the effect.
So, after all that, I'm wondering what people feel about a finished pen that feels like it might have a "naturally formed" surface (i.e. slightly uneven like a smooth river pebble may be) versus a completely even machined surface.
What's your opinion?
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4th January 2010, 10:16 AM #2Novice
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Russell,
If the texture fits the style of pen, then there is nothing wrong with it.
However, why don't you make a series of sanding blocks that are a few inches long and straight, and you can progressively sand the surface smooth, "flat" and to the finish that is called for. You just lay the whole length of the block on the blank while it is spinning, and viola (spelt incorrectly on purpose) your blank is now round and straight.
As far as the finish is called for remark, I also feel that not every pen is meant to be super-gloss shiny so bright it reflects back to the sun finished.
I feel some woods and meterials look better with a matte or semi-gloss finish
Jerry
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4th January 2010, 12:21 PM #3
I think it does not matter all that matters is that the buyer or recipient likes it whether it is lumpy, smooth. glossy, Matt or whatever.
Having said that from a personal opinion I like a smooth finish but that is just me.
Could you use a finish like CA or WOP and build it up so you can smooth it off without touching the clay? Just a thought.Cheers Rum Pig
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4th January 2010, 12:49 PM #4
I am yet to discover a definitive set of rules for how a pen should be , in the absence of such information I turn to size of fittings (matches bushes if lucky) hehe, then let the market place decide everything else , in the end the receiver is the final arbiter of good and bad
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4th January 2010, 02:18 PM #5
the pens that are coming off that pen wizard gizmo thingy are anything but flat
as another idea that you may have already tried, can you not finish it on the lathe be it sand or by tool, and then rebake it in the oven???
MIK
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4th January 2010, 07:42 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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No, it's not the fact it needs rebaking, but more the lathe turning tears at the texture and opens it up. It's only the 3rd one I've tried, so it may be just my technique that needs improving, or a different brand of clay. My next one will be Premo sculpey, which is recommended as one of the stronger clays, so we'll see how it goes.
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5th January 2010, 02:11 PM #7
Discovered that, while making pens from deer antler, that the ones I leave a little of the “stag” or natural texture and shape on sell and are just as popular as the polished smooth “Ivory” finished ones…seem people learn to adapt to the shape and feel, especially if they like the look of the pen in the first place.
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