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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry B View Post
    A question about the pens.
    I have made a 2 pen 3 fountain pens and use one of them every day. I am sure there are better fountain pens around but I am happy with them BUT, do any of the fountain pen kits have propper refillable insides rather than the silly cartriges?
    Some of the better kits have little refillable cartridges, sort of crosses between a cartridge and a syringe. The Parker style IB-708's come with 'em, the IB-702's don't. [shrug] The RL-102's come with 'em too, from memory, as do most of the Berea fountain pen kits I've tried.

    If, on the other hand, you mean the old school bladder with the refill lever in the side of the body, your flat out of luck. I've been looking for them for a couple of years now with no success whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    Some of the better kits have little refillable cartridges, sort of crosses between a cartridge and a syringe. The Parker style IB-708's come with 'em, the IB-702's don't. [shrug] The RL-102's come with 'em too, from memory, as do most of the Berea fountain pen kits I've tried.

    If, on the other hand, you mean the old school bladder with the refill lever in the side of the body, your flat out of luck. I've been looking for them for a couple of years now with no success whatsoever.
    The one I am using now has a small cylinder about the size of a 1ml syringe but with a screw mechanism on the top acting as a plunger to suck up the ink.
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    Skew,

    I believe the Pen Shop in Sydney sells the bladder type fountain pen pump. The Pen Shop also sells Private Reserve Ink for fountain pens. This is the ink that a lot of people on the IAP forum use. It's a bit expensive at about $16 a bottle but is a great ink to use with a pen like the Baron.

    Link is www.penshop.com.au

    The Baron kit comes with a cartridge and a pump and you can replace the standard plastic pump with a Premium Schmidt Pump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clubbyr8 View Post
    I believe the Pen Shop in Sydney sells the bladder type fountain pen pump. The Pen Shop also sells Private Reserve Ink for fountain pens. This is the ink that a lot of people on the IAP forum use. It's a bit expensive at about $16 a bottle but is a great ink to use with a pen like the Baron.
    Thanks for the link, Bob, but I'm pretty sure I've tried 'em before and they don't sell kits.

    The mechanism by itself isn't much use, as the bladder won't connect to a cartridge-type nib fitting and some serious mod's need to be made to get the lever to fit a std. tube. [sigh]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    Thanks for the link, Bob, but I'm pretty sure I've tried 'em before and they don't sell kits.

    The mechanism by itself isn't much use, as the bladder won't connect to a cartridge-type nib fitting and some serious mod's need to be made to get the lever to fit a std. tube. [sigh]

    Sorry mate, I misunderstood. I thought you were looking for a replacement not a kit with the bladder pump as part of it


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    Just today presented thankyous for timber given recently and maintain unanimous results of great acceptance for the basic pen slimline with my style waisted as was said once,it displays grain in all directions well,simple to operate.The pens today were Macassar Ebony and Wenge. I repeat pens are not made usually for penmakers but today for top quality furniture makers. I did use Platinum thanks Froggy for contrast with the black figured Wenge and swirl Ebony.The exception I used without spacer for the first time on two pens.
    I was offered figured red gum,to come olive tree and followed a mill owner to his place and bought exclusive red gum pieces to play with, he sell huge slabs of red gum he kiln dries in a solar,gas heated kiln.Nice new contact.
    Have a feeling fat ink pens are a status thing get it and store,slimlines look good and fit easy in the pocket or purse,used every day.
    Made a buster of a pen from figured mango with a fishing clip,my son is rushing over to claim that thanks again froggie for the clip supply .

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    Hmmm...I was into real ink pens & caligraphy for a short time in my youth.
    At that time nobody would have called a pen with a cartridge in it a " fountain pen"..... Its a cartridge pen.

    Anyway being a school boy with no money.... we used to refill the cartridges.

    A real proper lever action fountain pen I think is way beyond kit pem making.

    anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundman View Post
    At that time nobody would have called a pen with a cartridge in it a " fountain pen"..... Its a cartridge pen.
    Yep. There was a reason they were called "fountain" pens... but like many things, the name has been appropriated by it's cheaper successor.

    A real proper lever action fountain pen I think is way beyond kit pem making.
    Oh, I dunno. In myyouth I pulled quite a few to pieces. It'd be difficult to learn to make one well but, provided a proper kit could be found, I think it should be doable.
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    try the cigar pens there a man sized pen they twist both ways they have the same ink as the px then try the chrome version for a different look .

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    I did a polaris in platnum and african blackwood it looked great

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    I think it was the Mont Blanc fat bodied pens that gave rise to the status symbol assignation.

    I prefer fat-bodied pens, biros, roller balls, pencils because i have arthritis and rheumatism and holding a thicker barrel is much easier.

    Anyone recall the "Platignum" brand of fountain pen a low cost pen we used to use at school in the 50's and 60's.

    What was the most refills you could get out of refilling the empty cartridge before it cracked?

    Even in cartridges there was the long cartridge that had 2 or 3 steps at the end were it fitted into the nib unit and there was the other sort that was a plain cylinder. I forget which was considered "best".

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    My first "fountain pen" was a Platignum. Had to chuck it when the refills became unavailable. Got a Schaeffer after that - also a cartridge job. Must have been nice 'cause it got nicked off my desk at work just before varsity exams. Spent half my study leave looking for a replacement - found identical one and used it until nib wore out.
    Must have taught me about keeping pens in my pocket and not on desks as I have had the same stainless finish rollerball for 20 years now. Nicely balanced but clip getting really loose. First pen I turn will be an attempt to replace it.
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