Thread: Winchester Bolt Action

very very NICE
regards Michael

That aluminum blank looks great!
Can't say the same for that terrible looking scope on the rifle clip.

Les

MIK - That is a cracker!! Keep 'em coming!!!

thanks guys

Originally Posted by Les in Red Deer

That aluminum blank looks great!
Can't say the same for that terrible looking scope on the rifle clip.

Les

hi ya Les, i also think the scope could be better, i think just cleaning out the but between the uprights would help, however i like the smaller bolt action on the side which for me outweighs the clip, we will see how well they sell against each other, let the customers decide

MIK

Originally Posted by Les in Red Deer

That aluminum blank looks great!
Can't say the same for that terrible looking scope on the rifle clip.

Les

Yes Mik thats a very nice looking pen but I would have to agree with the comment Les made about the scope. It really is a pathetic looking scope if that's what it is meant to be I had to go out to the shed and check mine only to realize I am glad I only purchased the one of them. just for your further information Les they are the Mark II bolt action kits from Timberbits and I am also not a fan of the kits although they look ok that little knob on the side to sub for the bolt action is a real pest to try and use in comparison to the previous model. I am not sure what you all think but the believe the earlier model or the PSI Bolt are much better kits. But would love to hear what the rest of you think ?

Cheers Ian

I am not a fan of rifle clips full stop, but they do sell, so I use them.

I have so far resisted the Bolt Action "craze" as I didn't like the big "bolt" sticking out, which is totally out of proportion to the pen.

When I visited Timberbits last August David showed me these new Mk II kits with the small "bolt" and I thought that looked far more in proportion, so I bought some.

I have shown them to a few people and they like the action of the little bolt, it seems to work very well.

These were the first bullet pen kits of any kind I have purchased so I will see how they go at my next 2 markets.

Personally I prefer a bullet pen made from real projectiles and casings, but that is just me, I find there isn't much of a challenge to making these kit pens and the projectiles in particular look very artificial.

You never know, the kit pens may outsell the "real" ones and I may have to eat my words.

I agree totally with what you are saying about the real bullet pens being better than anything made in a kits form. I too have recently bought some of the Chinese click bullets and do you think I can put the dam things together even with the dam instructions no of which are the correct ones for that pen. Thats the price I pay when I buy cheap #### i should have just bought the GPW clicks and be done with it

Never Mind

Cheers Ian

Originally Posted by Dorno

I agree totally with what you are saying about the real bullet pens being better than anything made in a kits form. I too have recently bought some of the Chinese click bullets and do you think I can put the dam things together even with the dam instructions no of which are the correct ones for that pen. Thats the price I pay when I buy cheap #### i should have just bought the GPW clicks and be done with it

Never Mind

Cheers Ian

Ian, my reservations about the bullet kits are based purely on looks, they just don't look or feel like real bullet pens. Having said that, I can see that there is a market for them.

I bought 10 of the MK 2 kits from David and had absolutely no trouble putting them together.

Can't comment on the GPW ones as I haven't used them.

Sorry MIK, with all this pontificating about real vs kit bullet pensand funny looking rifle clips, I omitted to comment on your pen.

I think this blank is a real winner and together with the MK2, funny scope or not, it makes a good looking pen

What you have done with these MECHA type blanks looks fantastic and really fits in with certain kits and platings.

I think your pen look great Mik like I said earlier and sorry to change the subject a little but started about the scope and Fred I gave you sort of wrong info the Pen I meant I bought and had been having trouble with was just your standard bullet Click NOT a bolt action type. and I meant that GPW sell a great standard bullet click (not Bolt) and I should have got it lol


Cheers ian

Originally Posted by Big Shed

Sorry MIK, with all this pontificating about real vs kit bullet pensand funny looking rifle clips, I omitted to comment on your pen.

I think this blank is a real winner and together with the MK2, funny scope or not, it makes a good looking pen

What you have done with these MECHA type blanks looks fantastic and really fits in with certain kits and platings.

Thanks Fred, i appreciate the comments, all comments Good and Bad from everyone

i think the pen turning side of things here has just become a post and press the like button event, no comments needed, i even have a thread just prior to this one where it has received 54 views, no comments and 1 like, WOW

it was a lot different 3-4 years ago or is it 5-6 years ago when there was discussions just like the 5 or 6 post above, its great to see some constructive comments, hopefully it will continue in future posts

here is a question
how many people (general public) look at the pen and think
what a crappy scope or
WOW look at the Bolt Action

I usually have to point out the Bolt Action, but thats part of Sales

i think you will find for the most part that the general public will and do like the novelty aspect of the bolt action and i find that the smaller one is less cumbersome in the pocket

just my 2 cents worth guys, look forward to you opinions

MIK

Originally Posted by MBUMIK

here is a question
how many people (general public) look at the pen and think
what a crappy scope or
WOW look at the Bolt Action

I usually have to point out the Bolt Action, but thats part of Sales

MIK

To be brutally frank, I hadn't taken that much notice of the scope on the rifle (clip) until Les pointed it out.
I had formed an opinion on the overall look of the rifle clip and thought it somewhat "ho-hum".

As for your question

I would think that less than 2 in 100 people looking at that rifle clip would think "what a crappy scope"

But everyone I have shown the 10 Mk2s to has commented on the bolt action.

As an aside, I was at a market in Qld on our last trip up there (last July-August) and a pen turner at that market saw me looking at his bolt ction pens (the larger bolt type). He immediately went in to his sales spiel and told me that these were pens made from real bullets

I politely suggested to him that telling porkies about his wares was not a good long-term sales policy

Originally Posted by Big Shed

To be brutally frank, I hadn't taken that much notice of the scope on the rifle (clip) until Les pointed it out.
I had formed an opinion on the overall look of the rifle clip and thought it somewhat "ho-hum".

As for your question

I would think that less than 2 in 100 people looking at that rifle clip would think "what a crappy scope"

But everyone I have shown the 10 Mk2s to has commented on the bolt action.

As an aside, I was at a market in Qld on our last trip up there (last July-August) and a pen turner at that market saw me looking at his bolt ction pens (the larger bolt type). He immediately went in to his sales spiel and told me that these were pens made from real bullets

I politely suggested to him that telling porkies about his wares was not a good long-term sales policy

definite used car salesman, was he a bit red faced after your conversation

Nice to see some interesting and frank expressions being expressed here, It matters very little what your personal tastes and interests may be ,if you make pens for a mainly stranger orientated market, then they have to stand out from the bunch and attract attention I don't understand the psychology of selling too well but if I have 10 nicely made acrylics in a stand and one nicely made wood pen ,chances are I will sell the wooden one before the acrylics, why is that,I think it's because it stands out from the rest . If I reversed it to all wood and one acrylic the same result,Most likely sell the acrylic first. In other words the seeming differences are what makes a pen stand out and attract the attention of buyers. We can be a bit spoilt these days by the variety of available kit components from various suppliers ,but it can still be a challenge to get away from the same old sameness ,our only avenue is the body work and that is pretty much up to each individual and the level of effort they want to make , that said and back on topic ,mostly the kit bullet pens have a sameness about them ,so the bolt actions stand out from the rest , customers in the main are not likely to know the difference between "real" bullets and kits until it's pointed out ,then it's up to them which way they go ,in my experience the bolt actions sell well ,as do my 50 calibres , The 50 cal is large and awkward looking for a pen,but when people actually are encouraged to write with it they are surprised how good the feel in the hand. A bit like the Panache I suspect Any way its the differences that attract folk, and Miks offerings with the range of "Metallica" that he is producing are just that ,hand made blanks with skill and inspiration that shows in the finished product . Cheers~ John

(Disclaimer wasn't me telling Fred porkies hehe )