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Thread: Twist pen wood grain alignment
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3rd June 2008, 07:36 PM #1
Twist pen wood grain alignment
G'day all,
After some searching of the forum I'm still to find a conclusive answer to when the timber grain of a twist pen should line up, writing nib extended or retracted? I reckon it should line up when retracted because this is its "normal" position. SWMBO says extended because your looking at it while using it.
Some examples I made last weekend to see what I like. The first pic of 5 from l2r. Yellow box (unfinished), blue gum, red stringy bark, blue gum, red stringy bark finished to 1200 W&D, burnishing oil, wax, all at flat out rpm.
The 2nd pic without bands to gauge grain alignment extended and retracted. The grain in the ripped hardwood blanks doesn't really show. I'm gunna try some cross cut blanks next weekend (oh ... and 45deg).
So, who's right? Me or her.
David
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3rd June 2008, 07:53 PM #2
Retracted!
When it's in use the writer's hand obscures most of the lower barrel, so you can't really see much of it at all. Not enough to say "the grain looks wrong that way" anyway.
On the other hand, when it's not in use a pen tends to be left lying around on a desk/bench/whatever, where everyone and anyone can see it in it's entirety - warts 'n all.
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3rd June 2008, 08:05 PM #3Senior Member
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My suggestion to the manufacturers is to make the turn for the extension exactly one whole revolution.
So that the retracted and extended position are exactly the same.
Its only a slight changing of the thread angles. Yes I already know that it costs lots of money to change the machine setting and molds, but when it is time for an upgrade or replacement of the molds this would be an excellent improvement to the design.
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3rd June 2008, 10:43 PM #4
I say retracted, that is the way it is presented when you first buy or sell it or give it as a gift.
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3rd June 2008, 11:25 PM #5
I say put it on the inside of the brass tube. That way nobody will care how it lines up, you don't have to worry so much about sanding, nobody will know if you use Shellawax, CA or Hut, and you won't have to worry about the oils from your hands eating into the finish.
Hey ... am I smart or what?
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3rd June 2008, 11:26 PM #6So, who's right? Me or her.
Oh and I agree with your wife - lined up when in use or out and left laying around.
JD (of the fairer sex too!!!)Last edited by Touchwood; 3rd June 2008 at 11:27 PM. Reason: typo
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4th June 2008, 12:02 AM #7
David
No contest for me long ago decided the extended tip matches the grain, cause I am not fussed myself but when offering my pen for use I always extend the tip as a courtesy.
When I give a pen I generally take it from my pocket to demonstrate the pen is for use not show, then show the twist then demonstrate the replacement of the biro insertion using my own pen to keep the line up of the given pen.
All of this goes west at the first replaced biro. I rarely show anyone the grain match this I find is a maker thing anyway, creating an over awareness can come back and bite you on the rear end.
Other than that theories abound but thats what works for me.
Peter
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4th June 2008, 11:45 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Definitely retracted
PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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4th June 2008, 02:12 PM #9
I have always stuck to aligning the grain in the retracted position, similar reasons to what Skew gave, when not in use it is retracted and in full view, when in use your hand covers much of the pen anyway. The idea of having a full turn to make the pen grain align even when open has merit, the one question here is, do I really want to be bothered twisting it so far to open it?! Amos
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4th June 2008, 05:57 PM #10
Grain alignment when retracted
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5th June 2008, 03:57 PM #11
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6th June 2008, 02:46 AM #12
I go with aligned when closed or capped as well, for numerous reasons.
Say you were to make a very nice pen, Emperor with Snakewood or such, and the person who bought it was a collector, and simply put it in his display and looked at it. The grain should match when closed, because that's when people look at and inspect the pen.
Also, not everyone posts the cap, so it would be silly to make it match with it uncapped on a postable cap pen as not everyone will post the cap.
Last but not least, when you are using it as has already been said, your hand is going to be covering part of it, and you should be looking at what you're writing, and even when you stop and look at it, because you twisted it or uncapped it to write, most won't expect it to match up at this stage.Wood. Such a wonderful substance.
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