Thread: Possession of live ammunition for blanks

Thanks everyone's the feedback
Will get onto to them and find out what's required
Gonna be a real problem if I have to drive to we're ever to get them from mount isa
Have to unpack trailer etc first, gt back from karumba last night
Did a bit of fishing and ate a lot of prawns and mud crabs ( just though I would mention that ) )

You must have a permit to import ammo! into Vic before it enters the country, i learn t the hard way,i did get some thru Customs lucky i guess,but i failed with one, the bullet had a mans name etch into it, there was a 10m brass tube thru it,and a drilled out slug inplace, to me this was useless to work in a firearm Customs told me to get a permit,i had to write to the police of firearms the coppers gave me a permit and then i had to send a letter with the police permit to the Minister sitting in Capital hill, it was sent back wrong permit from Vic coppers it went on and on in the finish i dog and boned Custom and told them to crush tha f----- thing,so try and get ya permit first about 4 years back i think.

Originally Posted by gawdelpus

Thanks for that info any idea on pricing as used ones are around $2 dollars ?
Alo can you get the projectiles from the same source ,as second hand or fired is a bit difficult with these hehe, cheers John

Were can you buy 2ndHand ones for $2ea

Rifle Kits & Individual Parts

I went through this many years ago when I lived in Queensland. I was informed by the department that if it ever was a shell or part of a shell you needed to licensed to have have in your possession.

At the time i was trying to import used cases that had been powder coated as no one had the powder coating tools here in those day.

They also said I needed another licence to sell them. Gave up on the red tape and just made local ones not powder coated.

Sam ,between state Police and federal customs they are on different planets,throw in the Aus post ,and all logic and common sense goes out the window ,whatever (so called) Public Servant decides in their wisdom to advise their superiors about such nonsense should move to Queensland As an unlicensed person I can go into any firearms dealer and buy over the counter new unprimed castridges and non explosive projectiles ,no licence no permit required . I can't work out the logic ( unless one of the Ministers) owns a munitions factory cheers ~John
PS, not all public servants are non compos mentis

Originally Posted by gawdelpus

Sam ,between state Police and federal customs they are on different planets,throw in the Aus post ,and all logic and common sense goes out the window ,whatever (so called) Public Servant decides in their wisdom to advise their superiors about such nonsense should move to Queensland As an unlicensed person I can go into any firearms dealer and buy over the counter new unprimed castridges and non explosive projectiles ,no licence no permit required . I can't work out the logic ( unless one of the Ministers) owns a munitions factory cheers ~John
PS, not all public servants are non compos mentis

Well said john

Also with the custom made shell pens not the fakes has any one had problems at the airport when flying interstate i have not tried myself to get thru customs ,i fit the fake look a like nib to mine just in case im probably barking up the wrong tree here they would be fine packed away in your luggage

Originally Posted by gawdelpus

Sam ,between state Police and federal customs they are on different planets,throw in the Aus post ,and all logic and common sense goes out the window ,whatever (so called) Public Servant decides in their wisdom to advise their superiors about such nonsense should move to Queensland As an unlicensed person I can go into any firearms dealer and buy over the counter new unprimed castridges and non explosive projectiles ,no licence no permit required . I can't work out the logic ( unless one of the Ministers) owns a munitions factory cheers ~John
PS, not all public servants are non compos mentis

Same in Victoria and SA, I buy unprimed brass and and non-explosive projectiles all the time and I don't have a gun licence.

As far as pens made from real brass, as opposed to the fake kits, I send these all over Oz (as well as pens made from them) and have never had a query or a problem. As far as sending overseas I have sent both the kits and the pens made from them to quite a number of countries including the USA and have always put on the customs declaration that the parcel contains bullet kits and/or bullet pens.

As I said in a previous post I have ordered and received quite a number of different caliber cartridges, including .50 cal, from the USA, and have never had a parcel confiscated by customs.

Originally Posted by plantagenon

As a matter of interest, those who are not licensed but want to possess live ammunition (50cal, etc) to disassemble and turn into a pen can do so in Queensland with an authority from the Chief Inspector of Explosives obtained under the Explosives Act (Qld). It should not be a big hurdle to get the authority on application outlining what you want it for. If it is 50 cal then advice on the application that you don't own a 50cal weapon will help.

must admit, I'm unsure how one should respond to this

do I recoil in horror at the thought of the ignorant dissasembling 50 cal ammunition in their garage
or do I post instructions on how to do it safely?

perhaps better to encourage people to acquire bullet pen kits, which are inactive from the start

A deprimed shell doesnt rate as ammunition. A shell fitted with a spent primer, may cause some concern as there is no telling if the fireing pin indent on the primer actualy ignited the primer, thus rendering it harmless. To assertain the primer statis, it would have to be removed from the case or test fired.

Originally Posted by rustynail

A deprimed shell doesnt rate as ammunition. A shell fitted with a spent primer, may cause some concern as there is no telling if the fireing pin indent on the primer actualy ignited the primer, thus rendering it harmless. To assertain the primer statis, it would have to be removed from the case or test fired.

Go try and argue this with Customs

I've bought at least 20-40 bullet pens from PSI and included in that is maybe 12x50cals , so far nary a problem. My puter desk is WOOD and I'm touching it.....................lol

undies

Originally Posted by old dog

Go try and argue this with Customs

I have, they have no problem with it. The shells must be clear both ends ie no primer (even spent) and no projectile.