Thread: Superbunny does it again TSLS to Triton

Originally Posted by Superbunny

Some say no, some say you will never do it, some say I don't know, but superbunny say yes I can and I will do it. I have some pictures of my TSLS attached to my Triton 2000 and it works really well, yes I said really well. Some say it's not accurate and some say the Triton is not a real table saw, I say BS and have 20 years experience to say different. Look at my profile and check out my albums to see what I do on a Triton with little effort.

I had to put in two spacers I made from Aluminium as the Triton is much wider than the standard TS. As you can see the saw gauge shows the reading for both sides of the blade and yes they are zeros and it was not hard to do. I used it all weekend and no burning of the wood or any other problems. It makes the Triton a Super Triton now with the accuracy I think it was always capable of. If you still don't belive it's true your welcome to come around when I'm home and look see for your self.

SB

Heya superbunny
Love your work
I'm am slowly earing myself into woodwork.. Got a second hand wc2000 with triton circular saw (the solid body one) I was told by a salesman at Carbatec that the solid body circular saw is the best one out of three. As part of the package I've also got the router table (solid top one) with 1/2" makita router and biscuit joiner plus bits and pieces.. Just enough to get me started doing projects and realise that I can improve it further... thanks to this forum finally figured out easy way to level the blade on the WC.. Now the frustrating part is that the supplied angle has a bit of a wobble.. it moves abot 2 degrees.. naturally causing issues in cutting..
The first weekend job is to make a sled.... (again thanks to this forum where I've found Triton Cros cut by Bob Jager manual)
Second thing would be to move down to incra installation...
your setup seems like something to help me get straight and precise cuts (and trust me I need all the help possible... were talking real noob here..
Would you be able to provide some more details how did you attach the incra to the triton... pictures would be nice too...
Also since I couldn't sleep last night i've got thinking about possibility of installing a track into the sled and perhaps obtaining incra mitre so i can cut angles???
the sled dimensions would be 1200 L x 600D x 9mm MDF or do I need to go thicker (maybe 12mm)
Open for suggestions..

Originally Posted by Prle77

Heya superbunny
Love your work
I'm am slowly earing myself into woodwork.. Got a second hand wc2000 with triton circular saw (the solid body one) I was told by a salesman at Carbatec that the solid body circular saw is the best one out of three. As part of the package I've also got the router table (solid top one) with 1/2" makita router and biscuit joiner plus bits and pieces.. Just enough to get me started doing projects and realise that I can improve it further... thanks to this forum finally figured out easy way to level the blade on the WC.. Now the frustrating part is that the supplied angle has a bit of a wobble.. it moves abot 2 degrees.. naturally causing issues in cutting..
The first weekend job is to make a sled.... (again thanks to this forum where I've found Triton Cros cut by Bob Jager manual)
Second thing would be to move down to incra installation...
your setup seems like something to help me get straight and precise cuts (and trust me I need all the help possible... were talking real noob here..
Would you be able to provide some more details how did you attach the incra to the triton... pictures would be nice too...
Also since I couldn't sleep last night i've got thinking about possibility of installing a track into the sled and perhaps obtaining incra mitre so i can cut angles???
the sled dimensions would be 1200 L x 600D x 9mm MDF or do I need to go thicker (maybe 12mm)
Open for suggestions..

Look Prel 77 as a new one to woodwork, the Incra stuff is expensive and costs much more than the Triton set up. I could get acceptable accuracy from my Triton before I put the Incra on. Some of my best work has been done with the basic Triton fence. I've been using a Triton saw table for about 20 years now so I'm very good at using it to its max. I would spend many hours using the Triton first before thinking of putting an Incra fence set up on it. I only just did it as I had purchased it for a Jet table saw to buy later and someone said you can't put an incra system on a Triton and get any accruacy. A rag to bull if you ask me. I just wanted to prove them wrong and in the mean time I get to use it.

As superbunny says, you can get great great accuracy out of a triton setup without adding any incra gear. I too have been using Triton for a long time and I have developed techniques for getting a degree of accuracy that many have doubted but that I have been able to prove and repeat consistently.

Like superbunny, I also fitted an Incra system to my triton but in a different way and I did it before Superbunny did it. It was the 17" router system with wonder fence and I mounted the positioner on a piece of plywood on the maxi extention table so that I could use it on either the saw table or the router table mounted on the wc2000 chassis. I do not think it improved the accuracy I was already getting from the triton system BUT it did prove to me that incra was a good system and had advantages that the triton system did not, mainly in the areas of repeatability of setup. And this is where triton lets down the Triton-incra combination. No matter how you attach the Incra to a Triton there is too much potential for movement of parts to guarantee that setting the Incra back on the same settings that you used last week will cut the same sized piece, Thats why I have now mounted my 17" incra router table positioner on an Incra router table and acquired an Incra table saw positioner for my 12" contractors saw with a cast iron top. Now I have guaranteed repeatability.

But even though I have upgraded from the triton gear I am still keeping it because I can still cut very accurately with it and there are some tasks that just still seem safer or easier on the Triton.

Prle77 Dont buy an Incra setup if you are just chasing more accuracy on the Triton. You wont get it. Instead learn and practice techniques to get better accuracy with what you have.

Thanks guys...
Appreciate suggestion
Think I will start with making jigs first ... such as sled for easy 90 degrees cuts
Since I was given Incra 1000se mitre I am planning to route tranch for the T track and use this mitre instead of Triton protractor.
The original protractor has about 3-4 degrees play (it doesn't matter how much I tighten it) thus any 45 degrees angles are way off...
So putting the Incra mitre would give me those angles accurately (in theory... )
In the future I'm eyeing Bosch GTS10XC from carbatec which is within my price range
Bosch Professional Table Saw GTS10XC and Stand : CARBA-TEC
(by the way do you think it is a good purchase or is there something better)

Reason is that I have few projects planned requiring cuts at the angle (ie making octogonal box) and since you can't really set the saw on angle on triton bench (and since I can't figure out a jig which will allow me cutting different angles along the timber safely and precisely) I may go ahead and bite the bullet and get something like that...
Good part is that I would be able to use my Incra mitre on it without any modification...

Originally Posted by Prle77

Thanks guys...
The original protractor has about 3-4 degrees play (it doesn't matter how much I tighten it) thus any 45 degrees angles are way off...

you use a centre punch on the underside to widen the mitre and reduce the play. You can get it very close to perfect.

SB

PS any future discussion of Triton should now be in the Triton sub forum i think.

Originally Posted by Prle77

Reason is that I have few projects planned requiring cuts at the angle (ie making octogonal box) and since you can't really set the saw on angle on triton bench (and since I can't figure out a jig which will allow me cutting different angles along the timber safely and precisely) I may go ahead and bite the bullet and get something like that...
Good part is that I would be able to use my Incra mitre on it without any modification...

Octagonal box can be very easily achieved on the triton using the bevel ripping guide or if you dont have that make a crosscut sled and incorporate an capacity to elevate one end of the work piece to the correct angle.

The inaccuracy on the triton triangle can be overcome by accurately setting a bevel guage (possibly from your Incra) then placing one side of it against the flat of the circular saw blade wound up to full height and the other surface against the triangle. I have never trusted the preset markings on the triton triangle.

Seriously, the only cuts I can think of that cant be done on the Triton are bevelled or compound mitre cuts anywhere on a length of timber apart from the end or very close to it. Some are a lot harder that others on one setup than the other so thats why I am keeping them both.

Sometines I find the Triton better for no other reason than a lot more table past teh blade to help control the offcut than the tablesaw has. but if repeatability of setup is an issue then its all tablesaw and incra.

Doug