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    Quote Originally Posted by AV Elec View Post
    Great sweeping generalisation...
    Do you like aircon installers giving you (free) advice when you ask for it??
    Why do I need free advice. I pay for a job and manual supplied with the equipment gives correct installation methods and tools to be used for the job which I expect to be followed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AV Elec View Post
    Great sweeping generalisation...
    Do you like aircon installers giving you (free) advice when you ask for it??
    There is only one way to do a job. And that is the correct way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    Who was your teacher. Name of your Tafe please?
    Ultimo TAFE for both Fridgy trade, and advanced certificate.
    Followed on with Electrical trade, Electrical engineering cert4, industrial electronics, Austel, PLC's..........

    Can't remember the teachers name. Is it even relevant? He was old, and very experienced though...

    And your qualifocations are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    Why do I need free advice.
    Were you asking for advice in your other thread, or just winging??

    It seems to me you have an agenda, so I will bow out of this discussion now.

    Good luck with your mouse problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AV Elec View Post
    Ultimo TAFE for both Fridgy trade, and advanced certificate.
    Followed on with Electrical trade, Electrical engineering cert4, industrial electronics, Austel, PLC's..........

    Can't remember the teachers name. Is it even relevant? He was old, and very experienced though...

    And your qualifocations are...
    Every manual I have read so far says "use a torque wrench". Your teacher must be smarter than them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo View Post
    Move on!

    Nothing but posts whinging about air/con, globes and other carp.

    Go sharpen a few chisels or do something with a bit of wood.
    Of course I did some wood work recently. If that makes you happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo View Post
    Move on!

    Nothing but posts whinging about air/con, globes and other carp.

    Go sharpen a few chisels or do something with a bit of wood.
    Why are you whinging about your rulers made wrong by 10mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    Every manual I have read so far says "use a torque wrench". Your teacher must be smarter than them.
    You are also qualified to install a split system with a 1 week course. Not sufficient IMO.

    And your qualifocations are? (Apart from reading manuals)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AV Elec View Post
    You are also qualified to install a split system with a 1 week course. Not sufficient IMO.

    And your qualifocations, apart from reading manuals??
    My qualifications

    Reading forums. See thread below


    http://airconditioningadvice.com.au/...hread.php?t=33

    http://www.airconditioningadvice.com...hp?p=91#post91

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    Learner. For 3 weeks, 1 day and 23 hrs (at the time of writing) you have asked for advice, got it, ignored it and gone on your merry way of denigrating all A/C installers and other sundry trades because of your own lack of experience in dealing with people.

    You have gone into other threads with the same lack of understanding and tolerance and hung it on everyone in there as well.

    If you are so smart from reading all the manuals and searching the web, fix the thing yourself. I am sure there is somewhere that can tell you how to fix the circuit board and install it so that it is vermin proof.

    I am also sure that if you search long enough on the web you could probably find out how to exterminate all the rodents so that it wouldn't happen again.

    You may also learn that tradies that do a job for years have a "feel" for what they do and don't have to use a torque wrench on non critical components.

    You have had your bitch, now do as others are telling you, move on and get over it. This thread will be closed in 24 hours.

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    Learner keep it civil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    Every manual I have read so far says "use a torque wrench". Your teacher must be smarter than them.
    The reason for the torque wrench is to make sure the torque is correct. It wouldn't be impossible for an experienced person to do the same job without that tool.

    It's like cooking. They tell you to measure all the ingredients. But professional chefs just chuck things in without actually measuring. They get it right due to experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
    The reason for the torque wrench is to make sure the torque is correct. It wouldn't be impossible for an experienced person to do the same job without that tool.

    It's like cooking. They tell you to measure all the ingredients. But professional chefs just chuck things in without actually measuring. They get it right due to experience.
    I see.

    Anyway with an airconditioning system we need precise torque. I do not think there is scope for inaccuracy. Who wants a a system that does not last 20 + years?

    Sometimes the cost of installation is more than the unit itself. And to realise that the technicians who install these units do not want to invest in quality instruments like digital guages, quality vacuum pumps and torque wrenches makes me upset.

    The vacuum pump that my installer used looked like those tiny cheapest 15 dollar air-compressors for car tires.

    They do not want to invest in quality deep vacuum pumps.

    At the cost of 750 dollars for a single split system installation I do not think I was asking for too much.

    The vacuum pump below is the type I expect to be use for my system-not some 15 dollar el cheapo toy rubbish that was used for very short time.

    http://www.jbind.com/catalog_multi-p...07_catalog.pdf

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    Danger.

    Regarding the discussion on what is "putty", please note that there used to be a product made with oil and asbestos. This sets white in colour where exposed to the sun and never goes hard (stays a grey colour) where not exposed. The hardened putty will easily break and release fibres.

    As most would be aware, asbestos is highly dangerous - get a licensed removalist to deal with it and don't DIY unless you can simply dispose of whatever it's on without disturbing the actual putty.

    Whilst this is no longer sold, I just thought I'd mention it given the discussion about putty. Don't use any old putty in brown paper wrappers if you aren't sure what it contains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Learner. For 3 weeks, 1 day and 23 hrs (at the time of writing) you have asked for advice, got it, ignored it and gone on your merry way of denigrating all A/C installers and other sundry trades because of your own lack of experience in dealing with people.

    You have gone into other threads with the same lack of understanding and tolerance and hung it on everyone in there as well.

    If you are so smart from reading all the manuals and searching the web, fix the thing yourself. I am sure there is somewhere that can tell you how to fix the circuit board and install it so that it is vermin proof.

    I am also sure that if you search long enough on the web you could probably find out how to exterminate all the rodents so that it wouldn't happen again.

    You may also learn that tradies that do a job for years have a "feel" for what they do and don't have to use a torque wrench on non critical components.

    You have had your bitch, now do as others are telling you, move on and get over it. This thread will be closed in 24 hours.

    Hey I did not denigrate other sundry trades. You put words in my mouth.

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