Thread: australian woodturning exhibition

Originally Posted by DaveTTC

I live in NSW. Had I had the means and the time, after seeing the pictures just posted I would have made the trip to see it in person. For me it would have encouraged attendance.

Maybe some would have thought, 'I've seen it now, now I don't need to go'

On another note - can't remember if it was raised by you or someone else. It would be nice for those who submitted work to have their results emailed to them as judging was done. As time goes by I would suspect this will happen.

Next year I may be an entrant and enter (in both senses)

Well I live in Far North Queensland and I have entered in novice and now twice in Intermediate and have done quite nicely for me. I have also attended the exhibition in person and was most impressed with the hospitality extended to me and in the running of the comp and exhibition. I would have been there again this year if work & other commitments permitted.

I can highly recommend attending the event, entry fees well spent despite what others say.

I sincerely hope you have a go at entering in both senses.

And I add my thanks to those who have posted, also the organizers, volunteers and entrants.
When I enter anything (I am not a turner) it is with the idea of sharing my eforts.
Regards

I hope that my photos has stimulated interest in going to see the exhibition for seeing photos is not the same as looking at the exhibits closely.


Whilst it is prohibited to touch the exhibits the committee members on duty are always willing to pick up the items and show it to you so you can see it in detail and discuss the methods and ways of how it was turned, either having made it themselves or from their own expert knowledge.


Every year I learn new techniques to try, not always successful I might add, and stimulate me, definitely worth going.


Peter.

Peter

Your photos have made a world of difference for me. I thank you again

Well nothing like a robust discussion.

It would be nice for those who submitted work to have their results emailed to them as judging was done. As time goes by I would suspect this will happen.

It would be nice if that could be done BUT remember they are all volunteers, most of them have been at the exhibition building last Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday receiving and setting up the hall and then again on Friday, today and tomorrow for supervising the exhibition during their open hours and then again next week for the pack up and posting back the unsold and uncollected items.


I'll make the suggestion,through my club, that they look at co-opting, if possible, someone else for that task.


Peter.

Originally Posted by DaveTTC

I am Vice President of the local business chamber of commerce where I live and on a number of other committees. The money potential you talk about is insignificant compared to other means. Money lost as a result of social media - negligible in my opinion. If someone has facts and figures that suggest otherwise then I'm happy to consider that, especially as I'm in the process of helping coordinate a number of local events over the next 12 months.

Please don't take me wrong, I'm not out to fight etc. I have a friend who is a professor in marketing, have been to numerous business lectures and all seem to say use social media to the extent possible. Care needs to be taken to do things well for social media can be a two edged sword - something goes wrong and word spreads quick.

If I was running this event I would welcome ALL the publicity I could. If others are promoting the event it is doing me a favour. If the committee want to publish and sell photos they will still get sales regardless of what is available on face book etc. There will always be the covert taking photos if you try to prevent it. The main objective I would imagine here is to
1) promote wood work, turning in this case
2) show off people's work
3) inspire others
4) create a sustainable ongoing event.

Freedom to publish pictures can only help in each case. The amount of 'possible' income lost due to pictures posted on the net is negligible compared to the potential for positive publicity. 'Loss' of publicity is a much greater loss than any small gain that may be had by limiting or preventing pictures etc.

Some individuals may not want to be identified on the net for various privacy reasons - for them I would suggest if they still want to enter to have a 'name' they use as an artist such as many writers have written under an assumed name.

All that said and done i do enjoy seeing another's opinion even if I disagree.

I too enjoy a good positive discussion,

As I see it the exhibition committee has five sources of revenue, 1 sponsorship, 2 competition entry fees paid by the competitors, 3 entrance fees to the exhibition, 4 sales of promotional products (ie <st1:stockticker>DVD</st1:stockticker>'s) and finally, 5 commissions on sales at the exhibition which I might add is quite modest at 20% considering industry norms.

Yes - managing social media and other competing interests is a two edged sword. Promotion is good for an event however if that promotion has the potential to impact negatively on attendances then I have to disagree that money lost due to images posted on line is negligible when a committee has a very limited means of raising revenue.

Word does spread quick as it has in this instance on the forum in this thread i.e. entrance fees for minors. Perhaps a less damaging approach would have been to contact the committee for them to address for future events. As you and others have pointed out the volunteers are very hard working individuals who are stretched and do not have the time to manage these issues online at this time.

Positive promotion is good however in this instance with images posted while the event is running I find it unlikely that it has boosted entry numbers or even promoted sales, and more likely the opposite. It most likely will reduce sales of <st1:stockticker>DVD</st1:stockticker>’s. “Tacit approval” probably means the committee tolerates the posting as they realise that it is very difficult to stop.

I do not believe there should be a “freedom to publish pictures” in this case nor is there a “freedom to publish.” Artists do retain the rights over drawings; paintings; sculptures; photographs; and craftworks that are unique however ideas and style are not protected by copyright. Others should seek an artist’s permission before reproducing it (for example by photographing, photocopying, copying by hand, filming, scanning into digital form or printing from a digital file).

Because social media and online forums can be used to quickly distribute unauthorised or covert images as you point out does not mean that it is either, morally and ethically acceptable or even legal in some instances. We all are obliged to respect the rights and interests of others.

I’ve had my 2c worth

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Hi Everyone,

I want to preface these pictures by saying that I hope no one gets offended by them, I only want to provide a reflection on what I saw as interesting and hopefully provide an insight into what I liked. I am lucky to live locally to the Exhibition, and have been going for the last 4 or 5 years. I love wood turning and seeing what wonderful creations other people can dream up and then successfully realise.

The credit of course goes to those talented people and I hope that they will enjoy seeing my take on their creations and what I can notice and appreciate, and perhaps draw other's attention to those details too.



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I love David Shing's work, it is so different, yet intricate every time.

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My sister is involved in owls, and I took this to show her the awesome details of the wide owl eyes, as a contrast to a shot she has of a real owl.

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Up Close and Personal with the fantastic Ferris Wheel.

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Thanks for taking the time to look, and I hope this inspires more people to attend and see the fantastic details contained within these fabulous pieces of art!

Michelle.

Hmm! Might have to get there a little earlier than I planned to have a real good look.

Pauline & I went in Friday, took another couple with us. We took one show-bag per couple. Couldn't see the sense in having one each.

I think that charging full price for under 15's is a bit on the nose. If the 13 year old had been your daughter I would have said share the show-bag, but as your niece then I think it's entirely fair that she should have one of her own.

As one of the major sponsors of the show I was a bit disappointed to see banners from other sponsors up everywhere and ours nowhere to be found (lost I believe) there was even a largish banner up of a sponsor who at that time hadn't delivered any sponsorship. Personally I don't think it should have been up at all. But that's just my opinion.

As for the show itself... First time we've been able to make it for a few years due to it clashing with Sydney T&WWWShow. I was very impressed with the quality and high standard of work on display. Some stunning and mind boggling pieces.

Caught up with a lot of people who we only see a couple of times a year at these woodturning events and all in all had an enjoyable couple of hours.

Well worth the trip.

Cheers - Neil

I have never been to one of these exhibitions, mainly because turning is not directly on my radar and prior to retiring, work commitments. Being retired means I can look into the possibilities of turning, plus I have time to go to the exhibition.

I was wondering whether or not it was worth going and viewed this thread to see if it was going to be worth it. Only after I saw some pictures did I decide to go, so there is a positive from that.

One thing I did note whilst viewing the exhibits, was the almost non-stop clicking of camera shutters, along with the occasional camera flash. I do understand the need for advertising, but no one clicking away while I was there (Sunday around noon) was doing any clicking for advertising.

Many appeared to be getting as much detail on how someone has done this or that, presumably so they can have a go themselves; I find that acceptable, just. I do wonder just what they will do with their hundreds of pictures.

I suppose there is a fine line between advertising something with pictures well, not too well, or not at all.

There seemed to be a million different sections with awards being handed out to almost every entrant. I’m sure that isn’t the case, just my impression from the first turning exhibition I have attended.

Laminated/Built up, entries, were something new to me, very interesting indeed.

Something I noted about some of the clocks, were their backs. Some entrants had very neatly encapsulated the workings of the clock, others left them bare, the odd one (from memory) placed a covering piece with instructions, the ones neatly covered were the nicest to my eyes.

In fact one of the clocks was the piece I liked most in the whole exhibition, a student entry, “Pedestal Clock”.

A hat and brolly stand was something else I didn’t expect to see; it was colourful and rather striking.

The show bag would have been unexpected, except I knew about it from this thread, I was surprised how heavy it was. Peeking inside I immediately saw a yellow flyer for Ubeaut products; in fact it was their price list.

Further digging revealed some other catalogues and a sample tub of an Australian made wood filler. There was also an Australian made plastic rule, with the metric side the right way up for once.

Speaking of price, many items in the exhibition were for sale, most of the items were modestly priced, ($25 to around $400) some with more obvious work or look were reasonably priced, ($400 to around $1,000) with a few on the higher side, but probably about the right amount of high side price, ($1,500 to around $2,500)

One item though, was priced at the base of all five figure sums. I’m not saying the item was over priced, it would in all probability command that price in an art gallery, but at this exhibition it did stand out with it’s $10,000 price tag.

All in all worth going to, and, at $5.00, priced about right for what it was and where it is.

Mick.

I attended last year and the year before, took on volunteering duties on
both occasions and snapped quite a few photos for display on this Forum.

Last year was a "turn-off" as one official leaned over my shoulder and
said, "We should ban you taking photos as we are trying to sell DVDs".
I laughed it off as I tried to assure myself he was having a lend of me.

Another volunteer was supposed to take over my duties at an appointed
time but did not appear. I waited for another twenty minutes before
I found her talking with another person. I was on a tight timetable as
we had visitors arriving at my home. Needless to say I was not impressed
and showed my annoyance.

Not really concerned that I did not attend this year.

Allan

exceptional collection di great piece ... many compliments to all .. !!

Only heard about the event today from someone else who read about it here (and saw the original photos, before they were taken down).

Couldn't go because of previous commitments, so was hoping to see photos to know what I'd missed, and to know what to expect next time. After wading through two pages of 'discussion', debate and disagreement, had almost given up before finally getting to see some photos.

Some amazing work, but after reading so much discord, felt more sad than inspired. Was hoping to ask to put some photos on my site too, would have had some future marketing potential for the exhibition as an added benefit, but now think I'll just avoid the whole issue - don't need the hassle of so much dissent.