Thread: Blast, damn & other words to that effect...!

The second lump is the one which I know has a resin vein.

At least with that 'un I can plan ahead to incorporate the vein into the design...

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

The second lump is the one which I know has a resin vein.

So you started on the good end cut off.

It'll have some epoxy resin too then. Sometimes things are shot down before mice and men even get a shoe in.



We needs to make another visit to Mats Timber. But you do have that real nice lump sitting in the wood rack over here.

Originally Posted by Waldo

We needs to make another visit to Mats Timber. But you do have that real nice lump sitting in the wood rack over here.

I'd forgotten about that! I only remember the Cooktown Ironwood 'cos it's pretty much in yer face where it is.

I really should have another look at that li'l piece, just to see what I can get out of it. (Besides a small occasional table. )

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

So... what am I to do with it now?

Hmm. Maybe cut the resin pocket out with a holesaw then smooth the edges into a nicely feathered taper. Then change the shape to make it slightly ovoid and seal with shellac. Once complete sell it off as an artist's pallette

Originally Posted by dai sensei

Fill with resin, or CA with brass or coffe, should be fine. You have gone too far to burn it, so you have to save it

Listen to "the resin king"......he can fix anything with resin.

I was talking to a certain woodcraft supplier about Neil once......couldn't recall the name.... but upon describing him......Oh the guy that buys all the CA.

seriouly..... I have seen things neil has rescued with resin....A big translucent patch in the side of an item can look realy specy.

cheers

Skew change idea do a pattern cut out round the whole thing

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

I unexpectedly had today off, so thought I'd get some relaxation in. Had a lovely piece of highly figured Spotted Gum (courtesy of Waldo & his big project) and thought it'd make a fantastic winged bowl, so spent some time gluing on sacrificial pieces.

Then waiting... and waiting... and waiting... is it my imagination or does glue dry even more slowly when you're watching? Finally decided "Damn the glue, Fulls Speed Ahead!"

Started turning... damned hard stuff that Spotted Gum. The fiddle-back is very prone to tearout, too. Nevertheless, all things considered, it's coming up nicely.

Took too big a bite and lost one piece of sacrificial wood but decided to keep going with it unbalanced anyway, I'd already turned the outside to form so as long as I watch my fingers, everything is still going nicely...

Until... *CATCH* Whoops! Try again... *CATCH* Sharpen the gouge, try again... *CATCH* Switch to a scraper... THWOCKETY-THWOCK-THWOCK-THWOCK...

Perhaps I'd better shut 'er down and have a look?

BUGGER! BLAST! Hit a resin pocket. Sadly, I've been turning both sides of the wings simultaneously to maintain a 4 mm thickness, so I can't "deepen" the offending cove. Even a mere 3 or 4 mm or so would've made a big difference.

So... what am I to do with it now? It looks it's gonna run right through the middle of the bowl and I want the grain to be the highlight, not some resin fill... almost wish I'd cut it up for pen-blanks instead.

(At least it has given me a chance to glue the miscreant off-cut back on.)

"Thwockety-thwock-thwock-thwock" ... very interesting!

I looked it up in my book of ancient aboriginal expressions and
it states, "Oh, goodness me, what a waste of time for now but
retain it for future use when someone invents wooden pens"

Allan

just a thought, but how about using a blowtorch or similar to really make a feature of it rather than trying to fill it?.......or not.

Mmmm...

A few good ideas there folks, but I want to keep the fiddleback as the main feature, so any method I use to fill or conceal the veins shouldn't be a "feature" as such, but something more subtle. Not an easy call.

I gave some thought to ebonising/burning a straight band across the bowl to cover the filled sections but a bit of experimentation shows that although this looks alright from a distance, it looks like crap when close up. It makes the fill into an obvious patch.

Maybe if I painted the band it'd work, but I'm loathe to do that. Until & unless all else has failed, anyway. (I really like the idea of infilling the entire band, but that's not anywhere near as easy as it sounds and, I suspect, beyond my abilities at this time.)

Originally Posted by Allan at Wallan

"Thwockety-thwock-thwock-thwock" ... very interesting!

I looked it up in my book of ancient aboriginal expressions and
it states, "Oh, goodness me, what a waste of time for now but
retain it for future use when someone invents wooden pens"

Allan

Allan who was the author of that book?

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

Mmmm...

A few good ideas there folks, but I want to keep the fiddleback as the main feature, so any method I use to fill or conceal the veins shouldn't be a "feature" as such, but something more subtle. Not an easy call.

I gave some thought to ebonising/burning a straight band across the bowl to cover the filled sections but a bit of experimentation shows that although this looks alright from a distance, it looks like crap when close up. It makes the fill into an obvious patch.

Maybe if I painted the band it'd work, but I'm loathe to do that. Until & unless all else has failed, anyway. (I really like the idea of infilling the entire band, but that's not anywhere near as easy as it sounds and, I suspect, beyond my abilities at this time.)

Rubbish drew have a good look at them , they look like fossilized wood grubs so go with it . a bit of pyro a touch of ink and hay presto , you have a fossilized bowl with fiddle back as well .

Originally Posted by rodent

Rubbish drew have a good look at them , they look like fossilized wood grubs so go with it . a bit of pyro a touch of ink and hay presto , you have a fossilized bowl with fiddle back as well .

Trust me, I have had a good look at it.

Don't forget I've got the real thing, not just some crappy snaps taken by an inept photographer...

If you would be happy with a band - I suspect that it wouldn't be that hard to fill a band with resin. Turn a shallow groove, fill liberally with dark resin, cut back to wood. There you have a resin filled band...

Finally, I know that you wanted the fiddleback to be the feature, but maybe you need to reset expectations?

Finally, if you feel up to a bit of carving you could do a pierced carved pattern around the place where the problem occurs and simply cut it out - but of course, then you are back to having a different highlight...

Best of luck.

Cam

Hi Skew, I haven't looked into turning for a while, but could not go past your title...

My two bobs about your question: given that the resin pocket is not too disfiguring as it is, I would not cut away/fill with contrasting item etc. but would live it showing: it's a natural part of the timber anyway. If it needs filling for structural reasons, because there is a passing gap, I would fill the natural voids with same colour resin (i.e. coffee), otherwise, if there is only some pitting, with restorer's wax, again matching the natural colour of the resin. The glued up piece looks a bigger problem to me, that's what would make me go for the burner unless the joint is really invisible.