Thread: It's "BOWL", not "BOWEL"

Originally Posted by Frank&Earnest

Well Sebastiaan, mods and Administrator deem appropriate to leave this thread here, so let's go for it.

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Originally Posted by ubeaut

I thought we got rid of the spelling Nazis ages ago.

If it's spelt wrong who cares. Get a life and leave others to theirs.



SPELLING NAZI'S BEGONE or at least pull your heads in. Most of us dislike you immensely.

Neil

I agree. Stop continuing this stupid and senseless argument.


Peter

Peter, may I respectfully remind you of the forum rule about SHOUTING? Because the administrator can get away with it, does not mean you can.

WB, of course. I did not question the statement, I questioned the attitude, i.e. a teacher should always assume the ability to learn until proven otherwise (and we could have a long discussion about the adequacy of proof).

Getting a bit anal aren't we? This is a woodwork forum FFS.

In before the

Well Sebastiaan, mods and Administrator deem appropriate to leave this thread here, so let's go for it.

Im in,

You spell quite well. Why would you want to deprive your son of the ability to communicate effectively as you do? Poor Seneca's "We learn to be learned, not for its usefulness" has been reversed in the now commonly accepted "we do not learn for school, we learn for life". The old approach may be too "intellectual" for most, but why would you have any problem with a purely utilitarian approach?

Actually my gripe is with the illogical nature of the spelling of the langauge. The spelt language is a mixture of norse, saxon, norman french and whatever has landed from usage from other languages. Confusing to those who are trying to learn. I would really prefer a phonetic spelling, and so would my son. The french have an interesting system to try and maintain the purity of the language, its doomed I reckon.

Rules are there to make social life possible. Would you say "my 18 years old son drives well and without accidents, but the road rules fascists fined him for disobeying a give way sign"?

I never was a big one for rules for their own sake, eg sit still when learning, doesnt suit people who are not particularly visual learners. "Dont cheat" by asking or suggesting answers to your peers, doesnt work for those who learn by relating. We now know that people process information in radically different ways, but on the whole we assume that everyone is the same as us.

Tolerance does not mean neglect. Consider illiteracy as a form of poverty: your understanding for the spelling challenged is laudable. But should not stop you trying to help them

Comic books are really good in this respect, since he learns best by rote or auditory, they make sense to him, same as reading music, no probs. Spelling lists are a waste his his and everyone else's time. Illiteracy as poverty, I need to digest that as so much information comes though video and audio format nowadays that Im not so sure this applies as a blanket rule. That said the important stuff in our inherited culture, the poetry, etc is in a downward spiral compared to the video age we now live in. I suspect it will become like latin. The rise of text messaging has led to an explosion of creativity by younger users, this trend will continue as they grow up and assume the captaincy of our society. We can not predict where this will take us as the primary objective, communication, will be forever changed by a disruptive technology.

What I believe you should challenge is not whether your son's teachers are strict, is whether they have what it takes to help him achieve his full potential.

True, and underway.

An important part of this debate is "why are these rules enforced", if as you say, it facilitates communication well and good, if it is used as power over another then well you get my standard raised digit response. There is no standard for english. The poms and americans have their dictionaries as we do, which is right. There may be no right, maybe the best communicators will rule.

Sebastiaan

We are not having an argument, after all... We are both trying to do our best and learning in the process. Nobody could ask for more, could they?

Ok, I also agree with the paragraph you added after my response. You are introducing another topic though, the use of language as a means of discrimination. Been there, copped that... but has nothing to do with what we were talking about here.

Originally Posted by Frank&Earnest

Peter, may I respectfully remind you of the forum rule about SHOUTING? Because the administrator can get away with it, does not mean you can.

You may not remind me about shouting, respectfully or otherwise, for I did not shout.

I quoted the forum god exactly as he had posted. Get your facts right.

I still think you are trying to pursue a stupid and senseless argument after Neil has spoken, but I suppose that is to be expected from one of the boards serial argumentors.

I wont get into further arguments with you and I think this thread ought to be closed.


Peter.

jeez is sumwun bawd aw wot?

a bowl and a bowel are both vessells of containment, granted with different openings ;-)

maybe they have more in common than people think......

Doh!

maybe they have more in common than people think......

Are yes, a rose by any other name is but a rose.......

Originally Posted by hughie

Are yes, a rose by any other name is but a rose.......

... if it still smells sweet... as old William said.

I like pizza

STOP!!!!