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30th March 2015, 09:05 PM #1
Two new bowls
Haven't spent much time on the lathe lately, been busy making jewellery boxes. Started to get a bit excited about some segmenting again. Started with the simple northern silky oak bowl, it looked a bit plain. Had a bit of some commercial veneer banding that I thought suited the oak. The bowl is about 225mm diameter and 75mm deep. The open grained oak took three applications of grain filler then three sprayed coats of lacquer. I cut the gloss back to take the photo but will buff it back with EEE, to a semi-gloss finish.
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The second one is a bit more complex. The pattern is not quite right so I have started a second one. From the top centre, the timbers are, black walnut, the top most pattern is red cedar and black bean, the lower curved design is salmon bean and black bean. The lower part of the bowl is figured Queensland maple. Again, it will be buffed up later with EEE. This one is 210 diameter x 130mm high.
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30th March 2015, 09:17 PM #2
As usual the work is excellent but gunna have to deduct points for the flat finish
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Hi Jim,
I see what you mean about the second bowl but I am sure you're well on the way to sorting it out as for the first bowl when you say comercial banding I presume you mean pre made flat banding for inlaying how did you get it around the bowl,the face you have it on looks to be inclined not square is this correct or an illusion if so how do you make it work. As always you have done an excellent job on these.
With admiration regards Rod.
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30th March 2015, 11:16 PM #4
Hi Rod, For the past few years I have made my own veneer bandings. I still have some of the commercially made bandings left, the banding used on this bowl best suited the oak, in my opinion. The edge that has the banding fitted is in not inclined but square to the bowl top. It is fitted to a shallow groove.
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I am usually not a fan of segmented turning but I have to admit your bowl is different and I quite like it.
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31st March 2015, 09:29 AM #6
G'day Jim.
I too have some of the commercially manufactured veneer bandings and have experimented in the past with fitting them to the rims of a couple of bowls. In my limited experience with this I have bumped into 2 problems.
- Unless the bowl rim is almost vertical at the band location it's virtually impossible to get the banding to seat nicely or to sit flat in the groove. Jim will know what I mean, but to others trying to picture this, try wrapping a bit of that plastic banding tape around a sphere and trying to get it to sit flat on the surface once you move it away from the centre. I see your note that the band location on your bowl is square/perpendicular to the top and therefore doesn't require a "splayed" installation, but I'm wondering if there's a way to accommodate a non-perpendicular installation?
- There's always a problem with trying to align the pattern on the band where the 2 ends meet. Unless you fluke the exact bowl circumference to suit the pattern layout you end with a mismatched joint. Maybe you can engineer the circumference to suit?
Have you encountered these issues as well, and if so, found a way to overcome?
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31st March 2015, 01:02 PM #7
I have seen these done before but not given it much thought of giving it a go. Maybe when I have more time. Looks really nice and a shine will bring out the banding.
I do have one other though about the banding and that it to cut it and then add spaces of plain wood between the cuts.
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Both look good to me Jim.
Ted
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31st March 2015, 07:06 PM #9
Nice work Jim
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31st March 2015, 08:02 PM #10
Beautiful, especially the second one
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31st March 2015, 08:19 PM #11
Very nice jim, they both look great, well done
Cheers smiife
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31st March 2015, 08:24 PM #12
look great.
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31st March 2015, 08:46 PM #13
Hi Wayne, I did try to fit banding to a sloping surface by "massaging" one edge to lengthen it. The effect wasn't worth the effort. I am toying with the idea of re-designing a batch of bandings. That won't happen over night but it will happen. .
Getting he ends to match up is not really a problem. I simply make the groove a tad deeper until the pattern matches. That can be a problem, depending on how often the pattern is repeated. The joint in the silky oak bowl was cut at 45 degrees, to match the pattern.
More experimenting is needed. I am finding that each time I walk past a calender, two pages fall off.. .
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1st April 2015, 08:36 AM #14
Jim,
Beautiful work as always, but that is what we expect from a master woodturner.Mobyturns
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