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29th December 2014, 07:56 PM #31Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
I like the colour, too.
Are you using Chris Stott's original finial designs, or your own?
I was going to ask earlier, but forgot.... Steve
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Happy New Year to you all.
I've had a productive 3 days and completed 5 more boxes. As Peter (Sturdee) noted, boxes 38 and 39 (double decker box and 4 stack box) are essentially the same. Rather than repeat a box, I have chosen to substitute a design from Richard Raffan's "Turning Boxes". This will be box # 39.
Box # 36 - Skep or Beehive box
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60mm
Diameter: 60mm
Wood: Cypress pine
Finish: Sanded to 600 grit, EEE, Ubeaut Traditional Wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box # 37 - Inset-lid box
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A minor change to Chris's design. I substituted an acorn for his ball finial.
72mm
Diameter: 55mm
Wood:Jarrah and Huon Pine
Finish: Sanded to 600 grit, EEE, Ubeaut Traditional Wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box # 38 - Double-decker box
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Basically the lid is from Chris's box # 38 and the boxes from #39. In addition I have inset an Indonesian coin inset into the lid.
75mm
Diameter: 70mm
Wood: Jarrah, inset - Cypress Pine
Finish: Sanded to 600 grit, EEE, Ubeaut Traditional Wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box # 39 - End-grain box
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80mm
Diameter: 45mm
Wood: English Oak
Finish: Sanded to 600 grit, EEE, Ubeaut Traditional Wax
Design: Richard Raffan
Box # 40 - Commissionaire box
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Chris commented "When Alan Neal drew the plan for this box he noted that the profile looked like a commissionaire's hat" Box and lid are turned on centre and the moved 10 mm off centre to shape the top and bottom profile.
45mm
Diameter: 70mm
Wood:Jarrah
Finish: Sanded to 600 grit, EEE, Ubeaut Traditional Wax
Design: Chris Stott
Enjoy C&C welcomed.
Bob
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1st January 2015, 09:29 PM #34
You're doing a top job of all these boxes, Bob. Very nice work.
I'll stick my foot in it again and say that I like the 'Commissionaire's Hat' box best out of this batch. It does look like one. The 'Double-Decker' runs a close second.
The acorn was a nice touch, too.
40 down 10 to go....... Steve
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1st January 2015, 10:09 PM #35
Hmm - just found this thread
Happy (belated) anniversary
I think you are doing extremely well and I commend you on the undertaking - between you and sturdee I almost feel inclined to take up the challenge - but I won't just yet, I've a lot on THAT list to get through first
PS my fave so far is the galaxy box - I like the lines and the spalting sets it off briliantlyLast edited by Sawdust Maker; 1st January 2015 at 10:11 PM. Reason: add PS
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I will agree with you this time, although I cannot recall ever seeing a commissionaires hat. Maybe I have but didn't know that was what it was called.
The next 5 are pretty easy, will do them next week. The last 5 are much more challenging and will probably need the new chuck as involve both multi axis and eccentric turning.
Bob
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Boxes 41 - 45 completed this week. Overall they were pretty disappointing - no new techniques were intoduced nor did they particularly help in preparing for the remaining 5 boxes which are far more complex than we have experienced to date. But here they are, you can judge for yourself.
Box 41 - Top hat box
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36mm
Brim diameter: 57mm
Wood: Cypress pine
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box 42 - Bowler hat box
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27mm
Brim diameter: 56mm
Wood: Cypress pine
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box 43 - Jockey cap box
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Brim is turned as a 76mm disc and later cut to shape, im my case using a scroll saw.
28mm
Brim diameter: 63mm
Wood: Cypress pine and Radiata pine
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box 44 - Acorn box
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Compared with the scale of other boxes in this book, this is an enormous acorn - approximately 4 times the size of the largest acorns I have seen here in Melbourne.
74mm
Top diameter: 53mm
Wood: English oak
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box 45 - Picture-frame insert box
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This is very similar to the Box # 10 variation that I did earlier.
53mm
Diameter: 86mm
Wood: River red gum
Insert: Eucalyptus resin burl
Finish: Sanded to 600grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Only 5 to go. Enjoy
C&C welcome (good and bad)
Bob
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Box 46 - Three centre spire box
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Turned this one yesterday, sanded and polished this afternoon.
Box section is turned on centre; top of lid and spire are offset by 16mm and bottom section offset by 10mm.
186mm
Box diameter: 60mm at join
Wood: River red gum
Finish: Sanded to 600grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Enjoy
Bob
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Box 47 - Lattice-lidded box
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25mm
Box diameter: 50mm
Wood: Spalted Liquid Amber
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
I spent a couple of hours with Peter (sturdee) last week and am indebted to him for the information and tips he passed on to me - thanks Peter my problems with rotation creep when turning offset centres are largely eliminated. Basically my problems were too low spindle speed and too aggressive cutting.
Even though this blank has quite a bit of spalting, there was no problems with tearout. Lathe speed was 2400 rpm.
Bob
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13th January 2015, 08:13 PM #41
it QUOTE=Oldit reybeard;1836195]Box 47 - Lattice-lidded box
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25mm
Box diameter: 50mm
Wood: Spa;ted Liquid Amber
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
I spent a couple of hours with Peter (sturdee) last week and am indebted to him for the information and tips he passed on to me - thanks Peter my problems with rotation creep when turning offset centres are largely eliminated. Basically my problems were too low spindle speed and too aggressive cutting.
Even though this blank has quite a bit of spalting, there was no problems with tearout. Lathe speed was 2400 rpm.
Bob[/QUOTE]
Hi bob,
Nice box and I like the lattice lid, did you find the
eee and wax hard to polish up,
I did a similar top recently and used eee and wax
and found It difficult to finish off, I was thinking
It might be easier to use an oil finish?
Good job on the boxCheers smiife
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You're welcome Bob, glad to have been able to help you.I saw that the book I referred you to is also helpful.
Great boxes and you will be finished well before me as I'm still working on house repairing and maintenance. Nearly finished laying the decking timbers on the back stairs and deck but I've got at least another two weeks work before I'm satisfied with it all.
Peter.
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Almost done - here are boxes 48 and 49: only 1 to go.
Box 48 - Doughnut box
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I started by turning a spigott on each end of the blank and then drilled the centre holebefore parting off the two sections.
Turning the spigotts for the lid and the matching recesses in the lid was then comparatively easy. The base and lid were reverse chucked to shape the outside profile.
40mm
Diameter: 70mm
Wood: Cypress pine
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Box 49 - Off-centre oddity box
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Although Chris described this as 'off-centre', I prefer the term 'eccentric' as the centre point does not change, just the angle of the axis which is no longer parallel to the original axis, but offset by 15 degrees. This presented some problems as I do not have an eccentric chuck so resorted to offseting the spigot in the chuck (image 4) which limited the amount of offset to about 10 degrees.
The lid and base are hollowed on the centre axis and the curved section adjacent to the join were also turned on this axis. I have tried to show this in image 1. The top of the lid and bottom of the base are both turned on the eccentric axis. The liquid amber was used for the top as I found the the cyrpress was not strong enough and split on 2 occassions.
The method of holding the pieces for the eccentic turning is probably not ideal, but I found it to be quite safe with the lathe speed at 2400 and fine cuts with a very sharp spindle gouge (10mm). I could not think of any other method of chucking, so would appreeciate any suggestions.
55mm
Box diameter: 70mm
Wood: Liquid Amber for the lid and Cypress Pine for the base
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax
Design: Chris Stott
Enjoy
Bob
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Box # 50 - Flask box
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Not really a box as the medallions on the front and back are glued in place. Am a bit disappointed with the chatter work, maybe its the wood though more likely me, but I could not get much 'depth' on the chatter. Tried different speeds but didn't make any positive difference, rather the higher the speed the less successful. Any tips appreciated.
110mm
Box diameter: 80mm
Wood: English Oak with River Red Gum insert
Finish: Sanded to 400grit, EEE, Ubeat Tradition wax. Polished using swansdown mops.
Design: Chris Stott
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I hope you have enjoyed following this journey. I have learnt a lot and appreciate the assistance I have been given along the way
Bob
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