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  1. #1
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    Default One for the brains trust!

    Inherited a commission from a fellow clubbie who can't find time to do it. As soon as he showed me the 'template' (pictured) I near puked and said that the first thing to go is the big foot, only to be informed that it was the one stipulation by the client. Apparently used out bush and the big foot stops it tipping when she's refilled it too many times!
    My dilemma is now that I don't think I can stand anything shaped like that coming out of my shed - let alone 6 of 'em. Having only turned 3 goblets before, I'm looking for suggestions etc regarding.....
    1. Any way of making it look better while keeping the base that size?
    2. Is it OK to change the clients plans because of your own tastes (and pigheadedness) ?
    3. What food-safe finish for the inside can I get in small quantities (unlikely to need any more after this)?

    Dimension are 145 high, base 86mm, bowl 76mm. Inside shows she likes a red!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT View Post
    Inherited a commission from a fellow clubbie who can't find time to do it. As soon as he showed me the 'template' (pictured) I near puked and said that the first thing to go is the big foot, only to be informed that it was the one stipulation by the client. They are always right, sometimes.Apparently used out bush and the big foot stops it tipping when she's refilled it too many times!
    My dilemma is now that I don't think I can stand anything shaped like that coming out of my shed - let alone 6 of 'em.Think of the money. Mercenary but true. I know too many fine artists that are broke because they inflict their art on the populace instead of doing the odd job they hate.. Having only turned 3 goblets before, I'm looking for suggestions etc regarding.....
    1. Any way of making it look better while keeping the base that size? Yep. Move the bead up to the top of the stem so that the "cup" comes down on to that. Waist the stem a little more and make it thinner. Bulk up the cup at the bottom and make it rounder into the bead.
    2. Is it OK to change the clients plans because of your own tastes (and pigheadedness) ?No, not without consultation. I have to do some things I hate but I like to eat. Great jobs have a habit of coming from stuff you hate.
    3. What food-safe finish for the inside can I get in small quantities (unlikely to need any more after this)?Rustins Plastic is all I can think of.

    Dimension are 145 high, base 86mm, bowl 76mm. Inside shows she likes a red!
    Have fun.

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    What he said.
    Work is the curse of the drinking class.

    Joe
    Of course truth is stranger than fiction.
    Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain

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    My boss told me the customer is always RIGHT

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    Thee who has not made a mistake, has not made anything ??

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    Thumbs up

    Ugly and functional is the new beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT View Post
    Inherited a commission from a fellow clubbie who can't find time to do it. As soon as he showed me the 'template' (pictured) I near puked and said that the first thing to go is the big foot, only to be informed that it was the one stipulation by the client. Apparently used out bush and the big foot stops it tipping when she's refilled it too many times!
    My dilemma is now that I don't think I can stand anything shaped like that coming out of my shed - let alone 6 of 'em. Having only turned 3 goblets before, I'm looking for suggestions etc regarding.....
    1. Any way of making it look better while keeping the base that size?
    2. Is it OK to change the clients plans because of your own tastes (and pigheadedness) ?
    3. What food-safe finish for the inside can I get in small quantities (unlikely to need any more after this)?

    Dimension are 145 high, base 86mm, bowl 76mm. Inside shows she likes a red!

    Hi TTIT,

    I hope for your sake that your client is not reading this thread. Clients are always right, especially when they wrong.

    I am retired now, but if and when I was not comfortable to do a job, I did not take it. However, to be in this position you have to have enough other paying work. Early on I did not have the luxury to choose, so I just used to bite my tounge and get on with it. You are the best judge of your own situation. Best of luck.

    Andy

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    Just make sure there is enough money in it to buy a bottle of rum so you can have a good drink after.
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    yeah well, I suppose it depends on how much they are going to pay. this may compensate for the other difficulties.
    Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso


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    It's a commision...make what the customer wants. Not everyone has, or is required to have, the same taste as you.
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    ....................but it's better than the alternative.

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    it's in the eye of the beholder ya know .
    personally i dont find that item all that ugly , i would call it robust as opposed to dainty .
    you could make 2 samples hers and yours and ask the customer for their opinion .

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    An elegant three legged goblet could be a solution and functionally would be more stable on uneven ground than the sample.

    Neil
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    Just turn the things mate .
    Make the ugliest ugly goblets on the planet .
    Once finished you never have to see them again .........
    'cept for the pics you post here for us to admire

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    <style>.wysiwyg { PADDING-RIGHT: PADDING- BACKGROUND: #e6d8ae; PADDING-BOTTOM: MARGIN: 5px 10px 1 FONT: 10pt arial, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: #000000; PADDING- 0px } .wysiwyg A:link { COLOR: #22229c } .wysiwyg_alink { COLOR: #22229c } .wysiwyg A:visited { COLOR: #22229c } .wysiwyg_avisited { COLOR: #22229c } .wysiwyg A:hover { COLOR: #ff4400 } .wysiwyg A:active { COLOR: #ff4400 } .wysiwyg_ahover { COLOR: #ff4400 } P { MARGIN: 0px } .inlineimg { VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle } </style>A friend of mine who does consulting doubles her fee when offered a job she can do but would prefer not to. Amazing how often the client agrees, and she gets her premium for work dissatisfaction.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Suggest that you make them exactly as the client requested, with the best possible workmanship you can manage. You will feel good about the quality of your workmanship and your client will feel good about the design.
    Richard in Wimberley

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    I suppose it will look great to the user after a few refills!

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