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27th January 2014, 11:48 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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what is this chisel?
Hi poeples, picked this Sorby tool up at the market, what is it? Is it for beading or has it been modified by the previous owner, it has a similar flute to my small spindle gouges but this is much longer and not as deep in the overall thickness of the steel I have another also ground in the same fashion but has a deeper flute.
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27th January 2014, 11:52 AM #2Retired
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It is a proper spindle gouge.
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27th January 2014, 12:38 PM #3
Looks like it has been ground incorrectly, though. Those points/"wings" are a disaster waiting to happen...
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27th January 2014, 02:25 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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It is the way it and the other are ground that threw me, they are flat ground at about 45deg, which when looking in plan view of the flute gives it the look of a small bead, as the wings would be the first point of contact. A spindle gouge it shall become.
Thankyou for your replies much appreciated
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Joel
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I think it falls into the spindle/detain gouge definition. I do have one or two like this that are ground to a ) nose profile, and I use them as a bottom feeder type of gouge. Great for high shear angle finish cut on the outside as well. If the nose is more pointy, then a detail type gouge.
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So much timber, so little time.
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28th January 2014, 10:42 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Joel,
I think it is a variation of a beading tool, though it is hard to tell from the photo. You use it upside down, that is with the flute on the tool rest, pointing uphill untill the grind is horizontal, and it cuts a bead. It is a scraper, rather than a cutting tool, but it does ok.
Rgds,
Crocy.
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28th January 2014, 10:58 PM #9Retired
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I shall expand a bit on my first post.
It is a Robert Sorby (as shedbound said) forged spindle gouge in carbon steel.
The handle if nothing else identifies it but the square section near the handle confirms it. It probably has a Kangaroo stamped into it as well. See here for more information: Company history for Robert Sorby
It has been sharpened "straight across" and if it belonged to a production turner, used as a roughing gouge on smaller spindles, possibly chair or coffee table legs, maybe balusters.
The normal shape on the nose of these is a "thumbnail" grind, i.e. shaped like the lunula.
It can be used on bowls when shaped like this (thumbnail) but a bowl turning gouge is better for the main work reserving the spindle gouge for shear scraping which it does very well.
Early "detail" gouges were very deep fluted "U" shapes but were known as long and strongs. Another story.
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Thanks everyone, appreciating the feedback. The shaft near the handle is stamped ROBT SORBY. should this be reground to a fingernail grind. I can post more pics if necessary.
thanks
Joel
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28th January 2014, 11:22 PM #11Retired
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should this be reground to a fingernail grind.
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