Thread: P&N chisel set

Benji, you mean you stole it for $20, even $200 is stealing it. They now go north of $500.

The 7 piece set will last you a life time of turning.

P&N ceased manufacture a couple of years ago. Before that, they were the premium woodturning tools in Australia.

I use quiet a few of the tools, bowl, SR & Spindle gouges, Skews, Parting tools.

Yes you got a bargain and yes you got the good stuff.

Wow thanks for the info. Honestly had no idea. I’ll certainly put them to good use.


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Thats a score and a half you lucky bu&&er

You lucky bugga. I was going to get them but couldn't go get them due to covid restrictions. How'd you get them.
A big case of sour grapes on my side.

That's the bargin of the year.
I bought a set like that for $200 last year, someone offered me $700 for it a day later, I declined the offer.
I now have a few sets of P&N turning tools.
Great score and enjoy using some Australian turning tools.

From memory P&N made the box sets up to the mid 1990's, unlike other brands of box sets there is not one rubbish tool in the box.
The roughing gouge to buy individually was about $150 depending on place of purchase.

Put them to use and made a small bowl. Haven’t done any turning in about 12 months. Feels good to get back into it.





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Don't believe what everyone is saying, they are no good and I'll take them off your hands for the $20 you paid

Originally Posted by woodtryer

Don't believe what everyone is saying, they are no good and I'll take them off your hands for the $20 you paid

I was prepared to be generous and offer $30, but then he went and used them.

A dutch auction - any bidders on $500!

You scored a bargain - possibly one of the best bargains I have ever seen with wood turning tools other than "gifting" - top quality, condition, probably never even used, and highly respected / sought after. I can't see any marks that even indicate that they have touched a tool rest.

Perhaps its a prime example of "my biggest regret is that 'they' will sell it for what I told them I paid for it."

Maybe they should be preserved as such - a collectors item / museum exhibit - testament to the quality tools and machinery once made in Australia - before "brand acquisition" vultures and offshoring decimated Aussie manufacturing.

That is just wrong! good on you.

Originally Posted by Mobyturns

Maybe they should be preserved as such - a collectors item / museum exhibit - testament to the quality tools and machinery once made in Australia - before "brand acquisition" vultures and offshoring decimated Aussie manufacturing.

Yes, another missed opportunity to be world leaders with this product. Really makes me wonder how bad the company lunches were that they decided to stop making them.
Luckily I have a Skew, my favourite tool.
Rgds,
Crocy.

I don't think it as cut and dried as some people think. All through the nineties to 2013, I was a small manufacturer. That is, I took secondary manufactured products, becoming the tertiary manufacturer/wholesaler, I supplied retailers with sellable items.

As I understand things, the steel for these gouges was purchased from Europe, Germany comes to mind, but I sort of remembered it may have been from a specialised Austrian steel manufacturer. This rather unfortunately bumps costs and as a result, wholesale and retail prices get to a point it is almost impossible to compete with overseas manufacturers due to the economies of scale difference between the Australian and New Zealand markets and those from the northern hemisphere.

The purchase of base manufactured components and materials from the northern hemisphere and/or Asian countries meant one had to be extremely efficient at tertiary manufacturing or become an importer. One product that I made and sold, had base costs of raw material and components of approximately $75 USD per unit. Once I manufactured the raw materials then combined them with some pre-manufactured components, my cost was approximately $87 USD per unit. From there one had to market the item, get it to the customer via a reseller, which is mostly called a retailer then at the same time make a profit commensurate to the capital outlay and normal associated risks.

The real problem was that the retail price of the same or near identical finished unit, became available in the USA for around $60 USD. Add in postage to Australia, which at the time was quite cheap, my market then fell away like you wouldn't believe. This was one of a few items where this happened to my small manufacturing business.

I personally know of another tertiary manufacturer who is more or less in the same position today as Boral was back then, if they were able to source much of their secondary manufactured product from Australia, their story may have a different ending; but I'm not holding my breath and neither are they.

Mick.

Originally Posted by Lyle

You lucky bugga.

Unbelievably so!

I've never been a fan of buying turning tools as sets, but that P&N set would be the exception if it were still on the market. Their 1-1/4" spindle roughing gouge is one of my all time favourite turning tools. To replace that with a milled (not forged) SRG of the same size landed here from overseas now would set you back about A$250 for a Carter & Son or A$350 for a Thompson... ouch!

That SRG in the box is probably the P&N 1" size and worth about A$200 to import the equivalent if you could find one of that quality in that size (the Carter 7/8" SRG is about A$190 landed here).

So, yes, you very lucky b, indeed!