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    Bruce...in answer to your question, anytime you turn a natural edge bowl with "wings", part of the time the tool comes off the wood and then is "turning" air. There is a chance that once it re-encounters wood, the tool is jumping just enough that you wind up with a gouge mark. With that in mind, crank up the speed some so that the air time is minimized. No matter what you'll still undoubtedly have to sand.

    Looking good otherwise
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    Yep. And you'll get max flex high up because of distance from the hold and sapwood is often softer anyway. Alt is to sand carefully or hand-sand before you remove the bulk of the waste. Also check by hand rotating the piece next time where the wood is striking the tool; try flute facing up, shaft on a radius of the surface.

    They're both handsome pieces. Well done.

    White spots in the voids are wax accumulation?
    Cheers, Ern

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    Thanks Ed and Ern,
    I'll try as you suggest.Would a different tool be better - I use a 12mm bowl gouge?
    Ern, I'm with you regards "flute up" but not sure what you mean by "shaft on a radius of the surface" - I can be a bit slow sometimes, sorry.
    The white bits are actually light showing through( from behind) the voids in the burl.
    Bruce.
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    I am impressed Bruce, you have done very well! On the whole I reckon these have been well designed, turned and (from what I can see) finished. So the following comments might well fit into the category of nit picking.

    Box: finial is a good shape but the bottom bulge is too big/fat. Could be 3/4 the size. And the waist below it could be thinner. Lid is a little to prominant, i.e. it sits too high. I cant see how thick it is but lids often are too thick and heavy. Make sure your lid is thin. Shape of box body is very good but the waist down the bottom could also be thinner.

    I love the nat edge bowl. Would like to see better pic of foot but from what I can see it's very nice. Well done Bruce.

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    Bruce, I won't try to describe what I mean again (prob make it worse), just the purpose, which is to ensure that as you start to hollow from the high point you make sure the tip is contacting first.

    If you have a smaller gouge it's also easier to get a clean cut. I do that kind of work with a 1/4 or 5/16 P&N.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Ern,
    I think the penny just dropped..... I must approach the hollowing in a different way from what I interpret you might. I shape 90% of the outside then start on the inside, moving from the centre to the outside, hollowing as I go so the internal shape expands as move to the outside. Is that the way to go?
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    Yes, but if you leave more mass in you'll get less flex on the bowl wings.

    Some guys only go down a couple of inches at a time to achieve this. Not an issue if you are aiming for thick walls but the thinner they are the more they flex.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Yes, but if you leave more mass in you'll get less flex on the bowl wings.

    Some guys only go down a couple of inches at a time to achieve this. Not an issue if you are aiming for thick walls but the thinner they are the more they flex.
    Thanks Ern, Gotcha now.

    G'day Brendan,
    Thanks for the critique.....not nitpicking at all, I appreciate you taking the time. O.K. I'll work on that for the next effort.
    Hope Santa brings an A/C for my shed this year....too hot already.
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    Okay, hit me with it. since high school (97) i have done little until recently when i impulse bought a lathe with the missus, i have mucked around a little but this is the first piece that i have planned before ending up with something. and first item posted in turning. it is finished with danish oil at 400 grit.

    I only have a GMC lathe that i physically bolt to the outside bench every time i want to turn and a fairly cheap set of chisels. Timber is scrap from this job. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f11/fe...b-table-98066/

    i really have to get down to the local woodturners assoc, they have a good set up, time away from family is precious when you work away.
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    That's an outstanding piece of work given where you are on your turning journey and what you have to hand.

    Take a bow
    Cheers, Ern

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    That's an outstanding piece of work given where you are on your turning journey and what you have to hand.

    Take a bow
    Yep - I agree - verrry nice!

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    Well done mate!! That is a really great piece of turning!

    I sympathize with you having to secure the lathe to the bench. They are only just a lathe.

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    Nice chip'n'dip bowl T-surfer and welcome to the turners asylum

    So, when you graduate to a Stubby lathe, I think you'll be needin' a sturdier bench
    Cheers,
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    Yep I must agree with the others, well done.
    I work from home but it is still near impossible to get a few hours in the workshop

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    thanks for all your encouragement and compliments above!!

    along with the platter previously, i have made these two bowls as xmas presents to be piled with rum ball and the like.

    i wanted them to be square, but had to trim the corners for them to be able to swing without hitting the lathe bed. the diamond shaped one had some tearout on one corner so that is why it is diamond shaped and not like the other.

    i got an expanding chuck for xmas so that should sort the out of centre problems i am having when gluing another sacrificial base to turn the interior of the bowl.

    i apologise for the poor photos, but hopefully you get the idea.

    this is left over timber (i was told it was beech??) that is commenly used in staircases i was told. about 30mm x 290mm.
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