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    I have a couple of Nova screw chucks that have stood me in good stead over the years. Well, finally one of them gave way at speed, shock horror. It was a small piece of Dead Finish around 5" dia, very hard and very solid and it caught me by surprise.

    I had an old Holden ute axle from the 60's, so its become a new screw chuck much bigger with a thread of 20 mm dia or 3/4" and twice as long.I have no idea what the steel is, other than to say it turned slowly and proved to be very stiff steel. Some sort of high tensile steel with high anti-torsional twist capabilities

    The chuck its sitting on is not the chuck normally I use with my screw chucks. Its an old SN2 5" dia with the large bowl jaws it gives you an idea of size.
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    Looks like it's lucky you didn't suffer peripheral damages from that 'un! Nice job on the new one, too.

    Any plans for an upcoming WIP on "how to remove broken screw chucks from Dead Finish"?
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    only one suggestion also a deeper pitch thread on the screw! I use coach bolts on my face plates and replace them every 18 month's regardless of how much work they have done! and use the chainsaw file to open up the thread. but bigger is better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    Looks like it's lucky you didn't suffer peripheral damages from that 'un! Nice job on the new one, too.

    Any plans for an upcoming WIP on "how to remove broken screw chucks from Dead Finish"?

    Skew probably after Easter
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    Neil, I am with Chuck on this one, the threads look like they are for threaded metal parts, not aggressive enough for timber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Neil, I am with Chuck on this one, the threads look like they are for threaded metal parts, not aggressive enough for timber.

    Yeah I copied the Teknatool supplied thread form here 2mm pitch 2mm deep.
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    Hughie,
    For what it is worth. Snapped one about 6 months ago - and tried to use an easy out.
    Couldnt budge it at all. Had to drill all around it and used the easy out hole with punch to move
    it sideways (back and forth). Didnt do much damage, but reverted to the trusty faceplate & coach screws.
    I guess the good thing is that you were not injured in the process only the pride, eh. Drillit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drillit View Post
    Hughie,
    For what it is worth. Snapped one about 6 months ago - and tried to use an easy out.
    Couldnt budge it at all. Had to drill all around it and used the easy out hole with punch to move
    it sideways (back and forth). Didnt do much damage, but reverted to the trusty faceplate & coach screws.
    I guess the good thing is that you were not injured in the process only the pride, eh. Drillit.

    Bit of a cardio work out tho'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Neil, I am with Chuck on this one, the threads look like they are for threaded metal parts, not aggressive enough for timber.
    Pat post a pic of that monster you got.
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    Looks like I'd best be careful with any Dead Finish I might be
    (un)lucky enough to acquire!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nz_carver View Post
    Pat post a pic of that monster you got.

    Huey, one of my screw chucks has 25mm screw. Drill a 25mm hole with a forstner bit and on very low speed, mount the bowl to the chuck.
    With all you fabrication experience, you'd be able to knock one up in a few minutes.

    The lump is shown with the Woodfast Screw chuck for comparison.
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    Hughie,

    You might try one at 6 threads per inch / 4.5 metric pitch. Go in deep enough to leave just a bit of flat on top of the threads, then put the lathe in back gear and use a round file to get them deeper.

    That should give you a nice course thread to bite the timber and deep enough to get a good grip.

    What you have may work fine. Even if it strips out all that will happen is the blank will stop turning.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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    Good luck trying to screw that into hard wood like dry Red Gum.

    To get a solid mounting you need to screw into a shoulder on the screw.

    Cheers

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    Huey, one of my screw chucks has 25mm screw. Drill a 25mm hole with a forstner bit and on very low speed, mount the bowl to the chuck.
    With all you fabrication experience, you'd be able to knock one up in a few minutes.
    Pat thats some screw chuck I have planned to make another around 25mm dia. Unfortunately my lath ain't so accurate as to make a screw on type. I will have to use one of my chucks to use it on the wood lathe.


    You might try one at 6 threads per inch / 4.5 metric pitch. Go in deep enough to leave just a bit of flat on top of the threads, then put the lathe in back gear and use a round file to get them deeper.
    Paul as mentioned to Pat I plan a larger one,. I was looking at 8tpi but I have to check what my old lathes specs are . I am considering this sort of thread form ___|\___ not quite so pronounced and coming to a point..

    Tim the Timber Turner
    Good luck trying to screw that into hard wood like dry Red Gum.
    To get a solid mounting you need to screw into a shoulder on the screw.

    Tim I'll be using the Teknatool system or idea where the job butts up against the chuck jaws. I also have a series of 3 mm stainless discs of various diameters that fit over the screw chuck to give a wider area of support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hughie View Post

    Paul as mentioned to Pat I plan a larger one,. I was looking at 8tpi but I have to check what my old lathes specs are . I am considering this sort of thread form ___|\___ not quite so pronounced and coming to a point..
    I think 8 tpi would be fine for the hard timber available there. Much of what I turn is spalted or soft so a deep and coarse thread works better.

    I think the thread form you describe above is called a buttress and works very well in the one direction.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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