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    Question Chuck to lathe size

    Hey this one I have been trying to work out but it's driving me around the bend

    Ok so it's a sort of given that if you make small stuff you use mini size tools
    If your a tall person you have your lathe lifted up a little higher
    You walk before you run

    So can someone tell me is there a chuck to lathe size?
    I mean I have a nova gen 3 chuck and a GPW Gen 3 chuck that's bigger in size the the nova

    So I keep the nova on my mini and the GPW in my nova 1624 Now why I asked is I seen someone useing a stubby with a vicmarc vm 150 now that seamed normal to be big lathe big chuck
    then I have seen someone use a wood fast M305x mini lathe with a vicmarc Vm 150 chuck I mean that's a big chuck for a little lathe rite?

    So I'd like to know is there a rule of thum when it comes to chuck vs lathe?

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    Default The Chucks.

    Hi Dave,
    I don't think it is the Chuck so much, as the No. of Jaws, you can acquire.
    I now have 5 Black Nova Chucks, all with different Jaws, & all work Perfectly.
    The only Jaws I don't have, nor do I want, are the 50mm. Bowl Jaws, as I don't Turn Bowls.
    If I had too, I wood put a Spigot on My Piece, & Grab it with My 35mm. Spigot Jaws.
    My Pinocchio Jaws that have 2 Screws ( For all My Small Stuff.) get a lot of work, & they are a bit better than the Single Screw Small Jaws.
    Not sure what Vicmarc provide, but I think they wood be about the same.
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    Hi from me too Dave. I have no idea as to what jaws you have? You have blinded me with science, but on my lowly Record CL1 I have a chuck that will turn an 18" platter for my lazy Susan



    and with the bolt on jaws to reduce the size I turned a 'pinch between head and tail' chuck with which I turned the 5/8" inch balls to make it all turn, all 36 of them



    So I am not too sure just what you are asking?

    I also did some 1 1/12 scale dolls house bits using the same chuck and some self turned adaptors





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    Dave just because you have a big lathe does not necessarily mean you have to have a big chuck.

    You have the chuck and jaws to suit the job.

    Small jobs small chucks and jaws, large jobs large chucks and jaws.

    You would never put a VM150 on a midi lathe as this is overkill for the poor lathe but you can put a Nova G3 on a stubby.

    The old saying is you can do small work on a big lathe but you cant do big work on a small lathe.

    Man with most chucks wins.

    Clear out your chucks and stick to one brand, you get used to how they work better and compatibility is easier.

    In saying that the VM90/100 are not compatible with the VM120/140 but then you have the best of both worlds.
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    Default dont worry about, just go collectiing chucks

    The old saying is you can do small work on a big lathe but you cant do big work on a small lathe.
    Man with most chucks wins.
    yay!




    Yep! I wouldnt worry about it. We tend to change our lathes for bigger and and keep our chucks and move on. ie My chucks all dwarf the capacity of the Woodfast "14 swing and 29" on the chucks a somewhat large disparity.

    We only sell the chucks if we are getting out of the game,otherwise its always a case of adding to the collection.

    Its a fallacy that you can have too many chucks, It generally put around by the women in our lives
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    Quote Originally Posted by hughie View Post
    yay!




    Yep! I wouldnt worry about it. We tend to change our lathes for bigger and and keep our chucks and move on. .......
    Its a fallacy that you can have too many chucks, It generally put around by the women in our lives
    I hear you brother. You can't have too many chucks, but her indoors just does not understand this concept!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nz_carver View Post
    So I'd like to know is there a rule of thum when it comes to chuck vs lathe?

    Thanks
    Nz_carver
    Usually the chuck manufacturer will say in the catalog or web site: "this size chuck for XX swing lathe". No problem putting a smaller chuck on a big lathe for small work, but one could have a problem trying to hold a great lump of out of balance timber with a little chuck.

    Putting a big chuck on a small mini lathe will be self limiting on the size of timber, but it would be kinder to the bearings to use a smaller chuck.

    If you do bowls from green and have different size jaws you will rough a batch of bowl with different jaws for either spigot or recess. Six to nine months down the road when the bowls are dry and ready to finish, you will find whatever bowl you pick to finish will have a different size spigot or recess than the jaws on the chuck.

    After swapping jaws around a few times one gets the itch to buy a naked chuck body to mount the different sets of jaws.

    With only one chuck, if one plans ahead we can do a run of bowls using the # 3 jaws, then a run of smaller ones using the #2 jaws.

    Of course nature will dictate that the roughed out bowls will be ready to finish alternating # 2 and # 3 sizes.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by issatree View Post
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    The only Jaws I don't have, nor do I want, are the 50mm. Bowl Jaws, as I don't Turn Bowls.
    ...
    issatree
    I note you said you don't want a 50mm set but if you ever get the urge to round out the collection, drop me a line as I've extra (don't know why you can't buy a chuck without a set of jaws attached )
    regards
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    Also keep in mind the max. rpm of my vm 120 is 2500. Not sure if smaller chucks can go faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    issatree
    I note you said you don't want a 50mm set but if you ever get the urge to round out the collection, drop me a line as I've extra (don't know why you can't buy a chuck without a set of jaws attached )
    Oneway sells naked chucks, you add adapter of your choice and whatever jaws you choose or no jaws.

    When I bought the stronghold for my 20 inch swing Woodfast, I went into the den of iniquity and got the chuck, the adapter for 1 1/4 inch spindle and # 3 jaws. I knew the price ordered from the factory and asked if they would match it and they did.

    I will eventually buy a Talon for the 350 mm swing Hegner with the adapter for the 33 mm spindle and put my # 2 jaws on it to keep from having to swap back and forth on the original Oneway.

    Those needing a bare chuck for existing jaws might lean on the dealer to get one, citing the above.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    (don't know why you can't buy a chuck without a set of jaws attached )
    But you can Nick, Jim sells the Vicmarc chucks without jaws, they're listed on this page as companion chucks
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    (don't know why you can't buy a chuck without a set of jaws attached )
    Gary Pye sells a no jaw chuck set.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Carroll View Post
    Man with most chucks wins.
    I just counted my Vicmarc's.

    Now I'm feeling unlucky.

    Do you think I should get another one just in case?

    Cheers

    Tim
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    Hey Jim yeah I know vicmarc are the way to go I'm working at making the change to them

    I run 100 mm jaws on the nova and stock 50mm on the woodfast
    Understand jaw to work size and all

    it got me when I was at turn around to see this monster size vicmarc on a little mini lathe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    Dave

    What they all said




    issatree
    I note you said you don't want a 50mm set but if you ever get the urge to round out the collection, drop me a line as I've extra (don't know why you can't buy a chuck without a set of jaws attached )
    You can at Trend Timbers.

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