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    Default Electric drills for power sanding

    The old Skil job just died after an honourable 30 years.

    There no longer appear to be drills on the market with all of the following:

    1. 10mm keyed chuck (for reverse sanding)
    2. variable speed with speed lock button
    3. reversible

    (except for those 90 degree jobs that cost $450

    There's a Makita and a Maktec with 1 and 3 and I'm wondering whether an inline light dimmer switch could take the place of a speed lock button.

    What do you think?

    Would it starve the drill of current, or cause snow in all the TV sets in the neighbourhood?
    Cheers, Ern

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    Hi,
    Try the XU1 at $15 it has all the bits you need.
    13mm key chuck
    reverse
    var speed
    hammer action.
    While I have had a few disappointments with cheep tools this is the dogs b###ox. I got it as a spare drill 2 years ago and have been surprised how good it is. Even if it had been lessthan perfect at the price it is no tears would be shed. Bunnies, Miter 10 and some other places.

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    Thanks John, but 13mm chuck jobs I find just too big and awkward for this application.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    The old Skil job just died after an honourable 30 years.

    There no longer appear to be drills on the market with all of the following:

    1. 10mm keyed chuck (for reverse sanding)
    2. variable speed with speed lock button
    3. reversible

    (except for those 90 degree jobs that cost $450

    There's a Makita and a Maktec with 1 and 3 and I'm wondering whether an inline light dimmer switch could take the place of a speed lock button.

    What do you think?

    Would it starve the drill of current, or cause snow in all the TV sets in the neighbourhood?
    Good question. It might work. The switch of an old B&D I have gave up the ghost and I was about to give it a decent burial. I should also have an old 10mm chuck to fit. I will try to rig it up as you suggest and if it works I will make you an offer you can't refuse...

    Edited to add: seen the link provided by Wattlemake... go for it, for $48 you can't go wrong (unless the keyless chuck is too big).

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    Thanks guys.

    Went through the website ... some units lack the detail to be sure but none of them clearly match the 3 things I'm looking for.

    I've been on the phone to a couple of big industrial supplies places as well as trawled the websites of known-brand manufacturers (which adds a criterion that I forgot to list).

    I have bought a Maktec but it doesn't have the speed lock knob. The VS is controlled by trigger depression which isn't especially easy to achieve when you're swivelling the unit in and out of a bowl.

    ... keyless chucks unwind when reverse sanding; 13mm chucks mean units an order of magnitude bigger than the 10mm; three months ago the big makers had the kind of thing I need on their lists but no more.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Ern, what about sourcing a drill with the other bits & just buy a keyed chuck to fit it. Should be able to source one without too much drama.


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    K, hadn't thought of that. Thanks.

    Got a few small jacobs chucks lying around ... press fit I think. Is that normal? Or is threaded?
    Cheers, Ern

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    It might be worth your while to check out your local Ca$h Converters or pawnshops.

    I always feel ethically obliged to avoid these places, all too many of my possessions have passed through such places without my leave , but I recently bought a good tradesman's rotary hammer drill which I knew came from a deceased mates' estate at a ludicrously low price. Another case of a neighbour offering to help the freshly bereaved widow by "getting rid of the junk."

    [sigh] It's a sad moment when you feel you need to justify your reasons for walking into a shop... any kind of shop!

    Anyways, at the time I spotted other similar drills, with similar low price tags. They were old(ish) and a tad battered, but by the same token they were of the era before batt. drills & keyless chucks were common, back when tools were still being made to last and had all the features I've ever desired in a drill.

    Better still, all the elec. equipment at our local Ca$hCon has been tested/certified and I'm assuming that's a legal requirement nowadays so the motors should've been good to go. Just a quick test-spin (to check the gear box) before laying any coin on the counter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    K, hadn't thought of that. Thanks.

    Got a few small jacobs chucks lying around ... press fit I think. Is that normal? Or is threaded?
    The ones I've seen are RH threaded onto the drill's motor shaft with a small LH threaded retaining screw inside.

    Open out the chuck jaws to max opening then have a squiz inside. Should be able to see the screw. Undo it clockwise , then the chuck should screw off anticlockwise. Get creative if it's on tight - do chuck up tight to a bit of rod in a vise & try it in reverse, try hammer (the function on the drill, not a persuader ), maybe chuck a bit of rod bent at right angles like an allen key & give it a rap with a wooden mallet to break it free, ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter View Post
    The ones I've seen are RH threaded onto the drill's motor shaft with a small LH threaded retaining screw inside.

    Open out the chuck jaws to max opening then have a squiz inside. Should be able to see the screw. Undo it clockwise , then the chuck should screw off anticlockwise. Get creative if it's on tight - do chuck up tight to a bit of rod in a vise & try it in reverse, try hammer (the function on the drill, not a persuader ), maybe chuck a bit of rod bent at right angles like an allen key & give it a rap with a wooden mallet to break it free, ...

    Better still, use an allen key that the chuck won't spin on the rod
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    Hi everyone,

    I've found something that I believe is going to work well for my sending needs. Mine is on back order, unless you find a store that has one on the shelve. GMC Right Angle Drills (not cordless)

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    Hi Ern, get hold of an AEG SBE 500 R (blue), I have been using one of these for many years nows, done heaps of bowls, outlasted many others. Used to get about a year a drill before this one.
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    Thanks again guys.

    Nyodine ... that's a keyless chuck by the look of it.

    Baz ... drew a blank on new ones with a Google. Prob. no longer made? Any case, it's half inch chuck.
    Cheers, Ern

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    ... added, yeah, should've thought of that Skew. Cash Busters seem to have a lot of gear on ebay.

    Sean, thanks: one of my two spare Jacobs chucks is press fit, the other threaded.
    Cheers, Ern

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