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    Default Ever heard of a Twisting Gouge ?

    Roughly 15 years ago I was buying lathe tools through ebay and the Melbourne tool sale and in amongst the tools I got was this Robt Sorby gouge .
    It has a fingernail grind and the steel sticking out of the handle is between 3 and 4 inches long roughly.

    Ever since I owned it I thought it was a very well used gouge that has been worn down through use.
    I thought . "How much turning does it take to do that to a gouge? And what am I going to do with it ?" Nothing is what I was thinking . It stayed in the bottom of my stash rusty.
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    But last night after doing some more research on making a Barley twist . A recent interest revived since doing them at trade school by hand years ago . This gouge of mine has been pulled from the bottom of the box, cleaned up and used, and is now the most revered turning chisel I own at the moment .
    Its a twisting Gouge . And a video by Stuart Mortimer is where I discovered this .
    Stuart has a five part video on doing the barley twist on the lathe in what is a traditional way .

    This is part 2 where the twisting gouge is explained.

    Wood Turning - How to produce a Spiral Twist in Wood Part 2 - YouTube

    So after seeing this I was out in the shed last night at 10.45PM trying it out on a scrap of Beech and it works very well .

    I'm amazed once again at how we never stop learning something new.


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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post

    I'm amazed once again at how we never stop learning something new.

    The bit about the fingernail profile used on the modern bowl gouge having its predecessor in the twisting gouge was new information to me.

    Thanks Robert for this interesting thread.
    Stay sharp and stay safe!

    Neil



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    Ive been thinking more about this and the Barley twist was a style used in Jacobean times and later and the thought occurred that rather than hand turning the work piece in the lathe that slow power and the twisting chisel could have been the way they were originally done . I was thinking of trying it out in my metal lathe with its slow speed capability and Ill give it a go.

    In the old days before electricity the pole lathe with rope and foot treadle was probably how the chisel was first used for the barley twist . That's very interesting if its correct as the pole and foot treadle in this application does something that couldn't be done any other way except either by hand turning the piece like in the Stuart Mortimer video or until a geared or VFD electric lathe was invented.

    Then I saw this .
    Barley Twist Gouge

    And a different image of the above .

    twisting gouge - Google Search


    And a thread from here from 2009

    Twisting Gouge

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    Excellent videos Rob; thanks for the link. I’ve always wondered how they were done other than by slow carving.
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