Thread: Help with Ellsworth type grind

Oh... I meant to include in my last post that my "pregnant V" will grind to a swept-back design eventually if one spends long enough grinding the wings.

However, to get rid of the beak and concavity (ie. to get it to the correct side-view profile) the wings ended up sweeping back by about 1 3/4" to 2"

Hardly an ellsworth signature.

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

Oh... I meant to include in my last post that my "pregnant V" will grind to a swept-back design eventually if one spends long enough grinding the wings.

However, to get rid of the beak and concavity (ie. to get it to the correct side-view profile) the wings ended up sweeping back by about 1 3/4" to 2"

Hardly an ellsworth signature.

No but, man what a cut.

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

Oh... I meant to include in my last post that my "pregnant V" will grind to a swept-back design eventually if one spends long enough grinding the wings.

However, to get rid of the beak and concavity (ie. to get it to the correct side-view profile) the wings ended up sweeping back by about 1 3/4" to 2"

Hardly an ellsworth signature.

Hi Skew,

If you look at this article, particularly the examples near the end, maybe you are closer than you think
http://www.woodcentral.com/newforum/grinds.shtml

regards

Thanks to everyone who contributed here but after playing around with projections of the tool on the jig I produced something which looks like the grind that I was after.I followed the instructions of the jig exactly and that produced the shape that I photographed at the start of this thread. I worked on the sides and after a bit of experimentation, it's a reasonable shape but I did have to produce a long sweep. The convex profile was still hard to produce but I managed to get a slight convex shape.

Originally Posted by Alastair

If you look at this article, particularly the examples near the end, maybe you are closer than you think
http://www.woodcentral.com/newforum/grinds.shtml

My point was that it's the flute profile of this gouge that dictated the type of grind it ended up with. (Any attempt to shorten the length of the swept back wings causes the nasty concave shape.)

So that particular gouge isn't suitable for a true ellsworth grind.

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

My point was that it's the flute profile of this gouge that dictated the type of grind it ended up with. (Any attempt to shorten the length of the swept back wings causes the nasty concave shape.)

So that particular gouge isn't suitable for a true ellsworth grind.

No problem, I got that

At a sharpening workshop recently, I was presented with what I refer to as a "spindle " gouge. The type ground with a broad semi-circular flute from a round bar. I was told that it was "his bowl gouge" and could I correct the hooked Irish grind.

I wasn't paying attention, and it was only when I found myself with the lo-o-o-ong grind and paper thin wings that I woke up.

Reground it to a fingernail detail instead.