Thread: HELP!!!! lattice type turning!

Hi smiife,
Lattice-lidded box is #47 in Chris Stott's book.

PM me with your email address and I will see if I can send you some info.

Bob.

Maybe a thinner parting tool?! The are looking good. Pratice pratice pratice! I would like to give it a spin one day!

I think it is a matter of the right timber for the right job. Perhaps look at using a more suitable timber.

I've only had a play with lattice turning a few years ago & decided it wasn't for me. None of my attempts met my standards so are somewhere in landfill. I was also working on smaller scale pieces.

A few little tricks I picked up that improved my success rate were mark out the rings very accurately then work from the outer ring to the inner. Minimize any possible vibration / chatter and secure the work very well. Timber choice does have a fair bit to do with success but the grain in your timber looks OK. I also used sacrificial waste blocks when turning the off center rings.

The ring cutting tools that Hans Wiessflog & Ken Wraight use are modified round bar from memory, but they cut rings less than 1 mm wide. They use the round bar to eliminate chatter in the "parting tool".

Found this link that contains a picture of the tool used by Hans W.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/cmwt.product...pdf?1328056966

Here is another link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHaSpIiHcAI

Hi Smiife I've never tried this but now I'm inspired. In the Utube clip he's cutting end grain, which I'd think would be heaps easier than the side grain your experimenting with. Cheers Phil

Originally Posted by QuarkVI

Found this link that contains a picture of the tool used by Hans W.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/cmwt.product...pdf?1328056966

That is the tool profile I saw in Hans' Turnfest demo in 2007?

G'day Michael, I've had it in the back of my mind to try this for a while, but haven't got around to it.
I have a link to another YouTube vid that might help.

This one is by Eddie Castelin, and shows an alternate way of chucking the piece, along with his idea of the right tool for the job:
68 Eccentric Turning

I was wondering, too, would this be easier with green instead of dry timber?
(Eddie Castelin's looked a lot like it was still wet, the way it was cutting.)

This has motivated me. I'll have to give it a try soon. Keeping what Brendan said in mind, I have a nice little piece of old Huon sitting here that's just what the doctor ordered, I reckon. Not green, but it cuts well.

I also had a link to Pablo Nemzoff's video, but I just re-read your first post.

There are links to a couple of threads on the subject at the bottom of the page, too, I notice.

there is an ideal Jig made by Richard Joyner and Marketed by Ruth Niles in USA...Bill Kloepping has produces at treatise titled:
" A Free Computer Design Tool for the Richard Joyner Pendant Jig By Bill Kloepping"

Eddie Castelin's YouTube Video is great ..even though he isn't enjoying good health at the moment...llok at both may help...

I did a basic lattice lid for a pot-porri that I made see picture


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This is the jig that I used it is attached to a faceplate I used the top circle to make this lid by turning the blank to the size of the circle which is the same depth as the lid material. This is then held in the circular recess by double sided tape and also the wooden clip which has to be moved once you complete 1/2 of the first side otherwise you can not do the outer slots. The lid part is removed and turned over and replaced into the recess also turned 180deg so the circular slots of the lid are in opposite directions.
When cutting the slots for the lid you only need to go in by 1/2 the thickness of the wood any clean up is done using needle files.

Hope you understand this unfortunately I can not do a wip with loads of picture not at least until after Christmas due to making other things that need to be made for Christmas Namely the banger track I am doing in the toymaking section



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Hi guys,
Sorry i havn, t replied sooner been a bit busy at work
and watching all the lattice videosand i have finally
got to reply,!
Thanks to all for the suggestions and replies
I firstly just used some old pine offcuts just as test
pieces really, but the last piece was saffrass and as
has been said , the timber choice is important, I was
thinking of using a piece of burl next , a lot harder
and i think it might be better,,,,,!
also as has been said a thinner parting tool
(santa has been put on notice for this one)
I am also going to try and make a thinner tool
to cut the rings to the right depth
Not much chance of turning here during the week
but will try out some of your suggestions on the weekend
thanks again to everyone for there input and advice
got to go , found another u-tube !!!!

Originally Posted by Dalboy

I did a basic lattice lid for a pot-porri that I made see picture


2014-06-25 001 004.jpg2014-06-25 001 007.jpg


This is the jig that I used it is attached to a faceplate I used the top circle to make this lid by turning the blank to the size of the circle which is the same depth as the lid material. This is then held in the circular recess by double sided tape and also the wooden clip which has to be moved once you complete 1/2 of the first side otherwise you can not do the outer slots. The lid part is removed and turned over and replaced into the recess also turned 180deg so the circular slots of the lid are in opposite directions.
When cutting the slots for the lid you only need to go in by 1/2 the thickness of the wood any clean up is done using needle files.

Hope you understand this unfortunately I can not do a wip with loads of picture not at least until after Christmas due to making other things that need to be made for Christmas Namely the banger track I am doing in the toymaking section



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Derek, I was wondering. How thick was the piece of timber and how wide are the cuts? Hard to tell scale from the pics.

Nice job, by the way, as always.

Originally Posted by Hermit

Derek, I was wondering. How thick was the piece of timber and how wide are the cuts? Hard to tell scale from the pics.

Nice job, by the way, as always.

From memory the thickness is about 1/4" ( which I am sure is getting worse the older I get ) and I used a 1/8" parting tool for the grooves the lattice without the outer ring is just a fraction over 2" I still have the jig in the draw so was able to measure that.

Just out of interest the wood used was beech which is a close grained wood and is ideal for this type of work. Anything that splinters easy is not really suitable