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16th December 2012, 06:53 AM #16Senior Member
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Well, since I don't drink any more (God invented Whiskey so the Irish wouldn't rule the world! Though I preferred a good beer...) I use my Spindle masters for opening finish cans. Or mumbly peg.
robo hippy
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16th December 2012, 08:02 AM #17
Well, with mumbly peg I could get the knife into the side welt of my shoe without touching my foot
And you ???
Just noticed? Is that really you Eugene?? I know yer here somewhereMy ambition is to grow old disgracefully. So far my ywife recons that I'm doing quite well! John.
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16th December 2012, 10:51 AM #18GOLD MEMBER
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The Packard Woodworks catalog has 21 pages of turning tools.
Here is the online part: Packard Woodworks: The Woodturner's Source: Woodturning Tools
Bob Stocksdale was reputed to use only a 1/2 inch bowl gouge for most of his work.
Salad Bowl with Servers by Bob Stocksdale / American Art
His bowls: https://www.google.com/search?num=10....1.4jRBTeJSZf8So much timber, so little time.
Paul
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22nd December 2012, 10:24 AM #19
The two significant features of the Owen 'finishing' scraper are the round bottomed bar for rolling the tool on the tool rest to achieve a shear angle and the weight of the tool to reduce vibration. Both good features, but it evades me why solid HSS is needed to achieve either of these features. An excessively expensive solution.
The cutting (scraping) edge steel only needs to be a few mm deep to do the job. Any cutter like the Robert Sorby Cutter Tip will do the job.
Screw any one of the various shaped tips that are available to a solid round bar and you get the weight and rotation provided by the Owen scraper.
I'm not convinced that the tool is achieving anything new.Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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22nd December 2012, 10:42 AM #20Jim
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Neil, provide something heavy and you can then justify the price.
Cheers,
Jim
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22nd December 2012, 11:28 AM #21GOLD MEMBER
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22nd December 2012, 04:12 PM #22
... : ~}
Which is not a bad thing in itself, IMO.
I take my hat off to anyone who makes their living from woodturning, which of necessity requires some supplementation from demos, publications and the sale of stuff like signature tools. And, some turners end up being better known for their signature tools than their own work, e.g. David Ellsworth, which then promotes the sale of their woodturning.
As I see it, Owen's tool is not shonky, just unnecessarily expensive for the purpose. If there is a market for it, good luck to him, as it will be a few more meals on his table.
As for Henry Taylor, they have earned their reputation as tool makers and any extra sales they make that keep them in the game is also a good thing for all of us.
But, I'm just not going to be helping them out myself on this one...Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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23rd December 2012, 04:12 AM #23GOLD MEMBER
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Neil,
I agree with your post #22.
I am a bit cynical about Famous: Turner, Photographer, Golfer, etc. in advertisements holding the tool of the trade implying that if one had the Famous: Tool, Camera, Club, etc., one can be as good as the Famous.So much timber, so little time.
Paul
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23rd December 2012, 08:58 AM #24
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25th December 2012, 04:32 AM #25Senior Member
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I tried one of the tear dropped scraper tips on a bar a long time ago, probably a Sorby, and didn't like it then. There isn't anything that can be done with it that could not be done with standard scrapers, at least not when turning bowls. The fluteless gouges are made for bevel rubbing cuts, and you can't do that with the tear dropped scrapers.
robo hippy
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26th December 2012, 09:06 AM #26
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26th December 2012, 10:18 AM #27Senior Member
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Actually, the Owens tool can be used either as a scraper, or as a bevel rubbing tool. I do bevel rubbing cuts with my scrapers all the time. I am a bit on the weird side as well.
robo hippy
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26th December 2012, 06:35 PM #28
Don't ask questions like that Robo. Someone may well answer
My ambition is to grow old disgracefully. So far my ywife recons that I'm doing quite well! John.
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