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Thread: Long hole boring
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2nd August 2002, 03:58 PM #1Hewer of wood
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Long hole boring
Hi folks,
I've turned a table lamp stand out of a nice piece of cedar wattle, and now need to figure out a way of boring a hole for the flex.
One issue is cost: I can't afford a $70 auger, so has anyone any experience with a workaround?
The other issue is the tailstock: do you need a hollow cup centre, or is there a workaround here too.
thanks in advance,
ErnCheers, Ern
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2nd August 2002, 08:33 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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One method if you only want the odd one and don't want to buy the equipment is as follows.
1:Rip the raw stock down the center.
2:With a router cut a hole lengthwise.
3.Glue back together.
4.Turn as usual.
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2nd August 2002, 09:54 PM #3Retired
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Gooday.
As Tim has hinted at you should do the hole first.
There are a few reasons for this
1: you use the hole to hold the centres and the hole is in the centre. Nothing looks worse than an off centre hole (no rude comments either, you lot)
2: if you muck up the hole I.E. the auger pokes out the side you hven't wasted your time turning it.
It is very hard to drill a hole after the fact.
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3rd August 2002, 11:10 AM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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I've heard mention in the past about Off Center Turning.
But never heard of an Off Center Long Hole.
More information please, maybe a photo?
It just goes to show the broad (and deep) wealth of knowlege that some of our contributors have.
I still learn somthing every time I log on.
See you at SATURN.
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3rd August 2002, 07:09 PM #5Jr Member, Senior looking
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Hi Ern and guys,
You might want to take a look at this site maybe to make yourseld a D-Bit Drill...
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5701/...ipes/tools.htm
HTH!
JeanJean Michel
McMasterville, QC
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5th August 2002, 03:14 PM #6Hewer of wood
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Thanks Jean-Michel. A really useful source.
Does anyone know what silver steel is referred to down under?
ErnCheers, Ern
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5th August 2002, 06:04 PM #7Senior Member
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This type of drill bit is referred to in the
metalworking trade as a 'trepanning tool',mostly used for drilling long holes in soft metals eg brass,etc, don't know if it would work on timber because of the flex aspect.I don't know if you can buy the type of steel needed in non commercial quantities or lengths,you would need at least 8mm thickness for light flex to go through the lamp. Any metal experts out there ?
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6th August 2002, 12:42 PM #8Senior Member
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Ern,
I aint no metal expert but this may do the trick.
I am not sure how it is called in English but there is some tempered steel that we call "Piano String" in French, what it is really is spring steel. You generally can buy that by the meter in hobby shops that sell supplies for model aircrafts, it generally comes in diameters from 0.5mm to 8mm.
Of course being tempered you cant work it with a file, you will need to do the shape with a grinder as this stuff is strong like hell.
I have made drills like that in the past and the problem you may have is that when you are like 10cm in the hole in the timber your drill may get stuck in, to avoid that you can flatten the head slightly with a hammer on an anvil before you shape it so its diameter is slightly larger than the rest of the rod. Unfortunately once you have altered its diameter you cant use the D profile anymore, I use a profile like (-) (top view)
but that is not as precises as the D profile described by Mike Nelson.
Perhaps the best would be to start with the D profile and if it gets stuck use the other method.
Good luck.
Jack
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7th August 2002, 08:36 AM #9Novice
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Originally posted by rsser:
Hi folks,
I've turned a table lamp stand out of a nice piece of cedar wattle, and now need to figure out a way of boring a hole for the flex.
One issue is cost: I can't afford a $70 auger, so has anyone any experience with a workaround?
The other issue is the tailstock: do you need a hollow cup centre, or is there a workaround here too.
thanks in advance,
Ern
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7th August 2002, 08:38 AM #10Novice
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Originally posted by rsser:
Hi folks,
I've turned a table lamp stand out of a nice piece of cedar wattle, and now need to figure out a way of boring a hole for the flex.
One issue is cost: I can't afford a $70 auger, so has anyone any experience with a workaround?
The other issue is the tailstock: do you need a hollow cup centre, or is there a workaround here too.
thanks in advance,
Ern
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7th August 2002, 09:50 AM #11
By the time you muck around with all of these other ideas and get all the bits and peices and get it welded it would be a lot easier to give me a call spend your $70 and get on with the job
Jim Carroll
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7th August 2002, 12:37 PM #12Novice
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Does anyone know what silver steel is referred to down under?
Ern[/B][/QUOTE]
G'Day RSSER,
This might help
Silver Steel: 99% Fe, 1% C#.
Silver steel is a very hard material and therefore has good wear resisting properties. It is difficult to machine and hard to file, but is used almost exclusively for axles and other rotating parts. When heated to red heat and then quenched quickly in oil or water, it becomes so hard that it cannot be machined or filed. Thus, in its hardened state, it can be used for form tools or other hand-made cutting tools.
Catchya
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9th August 2002, 12:06 AM #13Wood recycler!
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In Australia.... I have purchased silver steel from Blackwoods. Comes in various sizes. Would be easier to spend $70 bucks though )
lacewood