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2nd January 2008, 04:22 PM #1
Hollowing Systems
I came across this site www.monster-wood-tool.com
while investigating hollowing systems and thought it might be of interest. Checkout his Youtube site.
RSSER did you get your Vicmarc Hollower. If so how good is it?
Cheers
Jeff
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3rd January 2008, 06:30 PM #2Hewer of wood
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the link. Will BM it for closer scrutiny.
Yep, the VM hollower arrived finally.
Haven't used it yet; been fiddling with setup and laser pointer. Depth of the camlock shaft is fine but the stepped washer is too wide for my ways. Need to substitute a washer stack. (It's clearly been designed for VM beds).
It's a well-made bit of kit; now black rather than the 'natural' shown on the C'tec website. Bearing pivots are as smooth as.
Main wrinkle is that the Stubby is not a long bed lathe (70cm max between centres on mine) and so I'll have to have a set of shafts of different lengths for the Woodcut Proforme cutting heads.
The cost is high given that it's a support system only and you have to have cutters and shaft(s) in addition. But the proof of the pudding awaits. There's a couple of nicely figured Qld maple blanks in the 'bank' for vases or urns that will follow a trial run with a lump of Plane Tree. Might make an Ern's urn for later.
Will post an update once I get some quality time in the shed ;-}Cheers, Ern
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4th January 2008, 07:48 PM #3
Hello Jeff,
Ordered one yet?? Got one of Enzo's deep hollowers a few weeks back, not too bad. I still like the Munro Hollower, possibly because I'm used to using it BUT boy are the replacement parts hard to get one silly flat little screw.
Got a card from Ian, says he will try to drop in on the way back from Melbourne, will be good to catch up with him.
Peter.
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4th January 2008, 08:37 PM #4
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4th January 2008, 08:45 PM #5
Peter,
Like I said before, your scenic views are fantastic.
Thinking hard about buying one. Been looking at making one or getting the Vicmarc one. Priced the Vicmarc at Carbatec and was quoted $384.00 for the hollower and another $59.00 for the laser. As RSSER mentioned the Vimarc is only a tool holder. The "Monster" system is about $500.00 landed in Australia and they come complete with different cutters and tips. Not bad compared to $443.00 + postage for the bare Vicmarc setup.
Cheers
Jeff
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5th January 2008, 03:02 PM #6Thinking hard about buying one. Been looking at making one or getting the Vicmarc one. Priced the Vicmarc at Carbatec and was quoted $384.00 for the hollower and another $59.00 for the laser.
As RSSER mentioned the Vimarc is only a tool holder. The "Monster" system is about $500.00 landed in Australia and they come complete with different cutters and tips. Not bad compared to $443.00 + postage for the bare Vicmarc setup.
Hmmm,
Whilst they both well made. But both abit pricey for my thinking. The supplied tools from the US site certainly make it more attractive. Although the exchange rate is not doing us down under any favours lately.Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso
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5th January 2008, 03:30 PM #7Hewer of wood
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Zaccly.
The VM with laser arm set me back around 370 (after haggling with Ctec on the basis of their earlier ad. price). With basic metalwork skills and a Proforme head you can keep the added costs of the cutting tool down.
The wrinkle with this setup and the shortish bed on the Stubby is that you're limited in hollowing depth. The tool holder allows less than 20cm of shaft travel courtesy of the handgrip. Then you need space to fold back the arms.
One option to get more length would be to mount the Stubby aux. bed to the end of the main bed. That would take expert fitting (ie. not my butchery). But at least I have good side access as the aux. bed can mount to the rear offside of the main bed, and the main bed can swing as it's on a turntable.Cheers, Ern
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5th January 2008, 03:49 PM #8One option to get more length would be to mount the Stubby aux. bed to the end of the main bed. That would take expert fitting (ie. not my butchery). But at least I have good side access as the aux. bed can mount to the rear offside of the main bed, and the main bed can swing as it's on a turntable.
Or remove the tailstock and mod the tool to have it hang off the end of the bed and so give you all the room you need to work.
Not too hard, a Stubby variation and any short bed lathe owners would appreciate.Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso
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5th January 2008, 06:15 PM #9Hewer of wood
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Doesn't need the tailstock Hughie.
Just been out for a fiddle (no more than that; it's 40 C in the shed ).
The limiting factor is the banjo butting against the hollower support post clamp.
But that gives me 70cm between the cutting tip and the top of the Shark jaws, if I use both the tool shaft and the shaft receiver to run over the tool rest.
Should give me plenty of shear force
'Course the retracted bed means a limited range for positioning the steady restCheers, Ern
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5th January 2008, 09:04 PM #10
RSSER,
You were lucky with your price. If I bought one and the proforme it will cost well over $500.00 which is for only one tool.
I was also worried about the Vicmarc with my Stubby S1000 with the short bed setup. With the Yank model the tool shaft attachment is very short and would give you more length. Also the pivot base could also be extended by making a longer base to overhang the end of the lathe.
Anyway, it does'nt hurt to dream for awhile but it's getting very tempting.
Cheers
Jeff
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Gidday folks ,
I have been checking out this system .
The Rolly Munro Articulated Hollower.
http://www.berger.co.nz/munro.htm
I have yet to see it in action , but Soren Berger gives it the thumbs up .
If the local turners club night did not clash with the Scottish Soc. council meeting , I might have gotten to have a 'hands on' with it . Ah well . next time maybe ,eh
Jock
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6th January 2008, 05:54 AM #13Hewer of wood
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Jock, it's a hollowing rig rather than tool that we're talking about ( = captive rig; hollowing tool rest). (Yep, I like the Munro tool but prefer the Proforme).
Vern: yep, will post a pic later.Cheers, Ern
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Ah , sorry chaps , my mistake.
It seems that the Kiwi Hollowing System uses the 'Strong Arm Rig'
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6th January 2008, 08:04 AM #15Hewer of wood
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Yep, tried that Jock. Don't have Kiwi muscles
Hughie: thanks for the PM. Took a closer look and the aux. bed can be bolted parallel to the main bed at the end. Adds 20cm
Here's the setup without, Vern.Cheers, Ern
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