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Thread: Hollowing tool handle sizes
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23rd October 2008, 08:41 PM #46
what I forgot to say also was that when you use a collet 'nose' on the handle, it also allows you many other advantages.
1. if the shaft doesn't have a step down, you can adjust the lenght of the tool within the handle.( or use a bigger collet) even store it in backwards ( out of the way, for transport)
2. you can grind a sharp end on both ends of the steel. while the flute of the gouge etc only goes so far, it doesn't stop you from grinding the other end into a useable shape. rather than wasting all of that metal in a wooden handle.
3. by changing a collet/s you can use tools from 1mm up to the largest size for that collet handle, as engineering collets are generally available world wide and range in 1mm increments. ( also imperial sizes)
I have been using this system that I developed ( as described above) for some time and its just great. There is no problem with vibration, as the collets will not come undone ( they are used in milling machines etc) and you can always add lead shot etc to the hollow metal handle if you need.
To see what I mean, have a look for Kelton Ultimate handle at Lee Valley web site
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...330,49236&ap=1
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23rd October 2008, 11:25 PM #47
'Twas Wednesday morning upover here, hardly near the end of the week. But it WAS near the end of my session yesterday - dangerous territory on occasion; and on another recent thread I stated my motto something like "I sometimes pass up the opportunity for a stir."
My point, which most of you got, was that dedicated handles for each tool isn't such a bad idea, although developing interchangeable kits is also an interesting challenge to keep the gray cells exercised.
The "religious war" referred to a debate about a year or so ago regarding metric vs. Imperial. Peace now prevails, thank Goodness.
All in fun, of course, mates.
Cheers upon cheers,
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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23rd October 2008, 11:32 PM #48
Partly my fault for reading on the way out the door, and mistaking you for someone who just wanted to stir and not trying to contribute something.
No hard feelings Joe, really.Cheers,
Shannon.
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23rd October 2008, 11:39 PM #49
None taken, Shannon. Really, for sure.
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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25th October 2008, 11:20 AM #50Hewer of wood
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FWIW, apart from mounting deep hollowing tool shanks, I agree, a dedicated handle for ordinary tools is the way to go. Cheap to make, quick to, er, swap over.
Cheers, Ern
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25th October 2008, 01:44 PM #51
There is no doubt that people will always want to use dedicated handles for each tool. That said, I have a couple of 'collet' type handles that I use for most tools and tools such as scrapers and the like ( that have tangs) and don't get used much, in 'usual' turning, I have with wooden handles.
I believe its not a case of one or the other.
My most used tool is a 1/2" bowl gouge, so I bought a few of these ( over the years) and rather than race to the grinder when one is blunt, it is far easier to quuickly undo the collet (with your hand) and fit a sharp tool. Takes all of a couple of seconds.
It sounds like I have lots of tools. I do have lots of tools that I shouldn't have bought. They are just not necessary. They collect dust.
Something that is difficult to 'learn' when you are begining. One very good quality 1/2" bowl gouge ( with a good grind) is worth a whole set of ordinary quality tools of varoius shapes.
Just wish someone had convinced me of that, when I first started.
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25th October 2008, 02:10 PM #52
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25th October 2008, 03:26 PM #53Hewer of wood
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Then they come to a Vic turn-fest ...
Cheers, Ern
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25th October 2008, 05:00 PM #54
...and get hooked on thinking about bigger, better lathes!
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25th October 2008, 05:16 PM #55Hewer of wood
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Yeah that too.
Will have to chk with Jeff's Anne before letting him in my shed ;-}Cheers, Ern
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25th October 2008, 10:12 PM #56woody
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I would not contemplate even thinking that Ern cos A. its not all bolted down and B. Anne will kill you for sure . I dropped a homemade one at Robbos do and it barely marked the floor cos was nearly taken out of mid air so fast . He is going to be tool rich and time poor and Anne will still be waiting for the open day that is to be held when the house is done , chhers for now and keep turning Jeff WW.Wally
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