Thread: Hollowing Tools

Originally Posted by Mikko

How much are the Munro tools as there was no price on the site?
Mikko

Mikko,
I can't tell you how much they cost as it is 3 years since I bought mine. An email to Rolly in NZ will get you the information, & I think the Australian distributor is Trend Timbers in Mulgrave, NSW. Try trendtimbers.com.au or rollymunro.co.nz . I don't know if there is a UK or EU contact.
Cheers,
Graeme

To give you an idea these tools in the Mega set are AUD$300.00 + GST.
The mega set consists of the handle, arm, short and long link, cutter and cutter head. They also come with a spare set of cutters and the sharpening jig.

Now to the question we call a shear cut a scrape by tilting a tool on an angle of 30 -45 degrees, now all of these hollowing tools work best in that angle range. Admitadly some work better than others and remove material better than others.

By using any scraper at these angles you can actually get shavings of the tool the same as you would get of any of the turning tools.

This is all dependent on the timber you are trying to work with. Some timbers you can get streamers flying of and other timbers you only get small peices the same as you would scraping. ie redgum & myrtle

The main differance between a scraper and some of these hollowing tools is the shape of the bit. Some like the munro or the vermec and this supercut use a hollowed out cutter. This is giving you a finer edge at the cutting tip instead of the flat material of most scrapers

The super cut is using a square bar with an articulated head on the 45 degree angle so is it cutting or scraping?

Just my 2c worth

Too much info and opinions......can not take it all at once.
One thing that is a fact is that the Munro tool is pretty affordable.

Need to buy one...directly from NZ that is.

Thanks,
Mikko

To add to your confusion, I would also research the Kelton hollowers if I were you (aka McNaughton), leaving aside the question of handles - also made in NZ.

A lot of prof. turners use them.

Where to get one/set/what ever the bundle might be.....
Keen I am.)

M

Suggest you buy the Munro, if that's what you're asking about, from Jim Carroll - see the url on his post on this thread. Jim will give you excellent after sales advice on using the tool.

If it's the Kelton you're talking about; don't know, but google to find the Kelton site and ask about retailers. In Australia, see
http://www.thewoodworks.com.au/detai...19063247982636

I was speaking with Tony at Woodworks Book and Tool Co the other day about one of the McNaughton bowl saver rigs and he said that sales had taken off in the US and getting supply into Australia was still difficult. Waiting times in the order of months rather than weeks. I've started looking at suppliers offshore to see what I can get.

I was talking to kel a couple of weeks ago and he was sending me more information and samples of his tools for apprasial. He indicated that the American market had taken most of his stock and he was having trouble keeping up with the orders from elsewhere. He has realised that he has neglected the Australasian market and wants to change that this year.

Ern you have indicated a liking for these tools can you elaborate on your likes and dislikes and comparisons with other like tools.

Originally Posted by Turner Corner

I was speaking with Tony at Woodworks Book and Tool Co the other day about one of the McNaughton bowl saver rigs and he said that sales had taken off in the US and getting supply into Australia was still difficult. Waiting times in the order of months rather than weeks.

Yeah, tho we were talking about the hollowers. May be the same supply situation of course.

Jim - I didn't mean to imply a preference or even claim any real expertise. Just that both my teachers - prof. woodworkers - use(d) the Keltons. My tool is the Munro (vers. 1), which I find performs variably; good on end grain, less so on side grain; important to keep the cutter sharp and remove the shavings often. Could you add to this?

I've used the Keltons once on a largish semi-enclosed form, with a long steel handle. It seemed to be easier to remove stock fast, be less prone to vibration and feel overall a bit more composed. Some of the difference was clearly due to the handle.

For a more thorough comparison, see

An Opinionated Survey of Hollowing Tools-Part 1, 2 etc

at

http://www.fholder.com/Woodturning/lyn.html

In another article linked off the same page Lyn M. talks very favorably of the Munro hollower.

It was due to borrowing a prof. Turners hollowing kit that I found out about the Kelton gear and hence started this thread. As I said at the start, I used them with the Exocet handle which was also excellent. I have now got hold of the 1/2" router extension collet so tomorrow's job is to make the handle. I will post photos when I have done so you can all pass comment!!