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17th November 2020, 10:41 AM #31
Yeah, of course, you are right about that Willy. I should have seen the flaw in my proposition there!
Having had a 150mm extensions made to allow for deeper reach with my chucks for re-mounting of previously green turned deeper bowls, I should have realised that cheaper solution.
Only thing to keep in mind is that the adaptor needs to be perfectly true or it will amplify any run out. My 150mm extension was made by Enzo at Vermec and he is always spot on!
The only minor issue for me with using an adaptor when outboard (as distinct from endboard) turning is that it does reduce your available distance from the chuck to the toolpost by that amount. Not an issue for platters and the like but it certainly is with deep hollow forms.Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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17th November 2020, 08:17 PM #32Senior Member
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18th November 2020, 11:00 AM #33
I did not include the Harveys in the table because of their similarity to the Lagunas as they do have a similar heritage, although they do vary from the Lagunas, like having cast iron rather than steel bedways.
New Harvey T60-S | American Association of Woodturners
Here is a review of the Harvey T-60
http://www.turnedbyian.com/content/p...0%20Review.pdf
If anyone is interested in sorting out the differences between the Lagunas and the Harveys they might like to give us a summary of those details with a post here.
From what I can see from a quick look, we don't seem to get the Harvey T-60 here, like they do in the US... see here
What we seem to be offered here is the T-50. Made and assembled in China by Harvey.
T-50 Variable Speed Woodworking Lathe, View variable speed wood lathe, HARVEY Product Details from Nanjing Harvey Machinery Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com
Sold here by
Harvey T-50 Wood Lathe - Bigger Boyz ToyzStay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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15th December 2020, 03:04 PM #34
New Sherwood MC-1642-VX Woodlathe
This recent addition at Timbecon would qualify as a larger lathe based on its HP. Currently selling from Timbecon for $3,199 during December Sale! So, at a lower price point. Here are its specs from their website.
Motor 2 HP, 220V, 3-phase with single-phase VFD Power requirement 220V, single-phase Swing over bed 406mm (16in) Swing over tool rest base 290mm (11.5in) Distance between centers 1050mm (42in) Base Material Heavy-duty, precision machined steel bed and cast-iron legs Headstock Spindle M30 x 3.5TPI RH Speed Control Variable-speed spindle control with digital readout Speed Range High: 250-3200 RPM / Low: 100-1200 RPM Spindle MT#2 spindle & tailstock tapers Spindle bore .445in Tool post diameter 25mm Overall dimensions 1975mm x 570mm x 1195mm Approximate shipping weight 179kg
I laughed out loud when I saw what they are offering as an outboard tool rest...
A third party option might improve on that arrangement.
I won't try to add to the spreadsheet, but here it is at Timbecon if anyone is interested.
https://www.timbecon.com.au/sherwood...745b-375164186
And here is a 'review' by Andrew Potocnik
Choosing Your Lathe - Part 5 - YouTubeStay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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15th December 2020, 04:15 PM #35GOLD MEMBER
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Neil, that new lathe from Timbecon has quite a few things to make it interesting and for some people there will be value for them.
The tool post is 25.4mm, not 25mm according to Andrew Potocnik. I like that Timbecon, in general, advertise their products in metric with inches or whatever in brackets; I applaud that.
I agree about the outboard turning system being a bit flimsy; that said, I myself have made something like that for long spindle turning; 1.2m, which did the job. But I wouldn't like to subject their unit to heavy use, that angle iron may end up like a corrugated roof over time from the thunk, thunk, thunk of initial rough bowl blank turning.
I have stood alongside Andrew, he is taller than me. That lathe looks to be quite tall going from what I could see in the clip, I would suggest it may be too tall for me. I wonder if it was on wheels, as shown on the static pictures on their site? I'm 1.74m.
They make much mention of the motor being a servo instead of an induction type, I don't know much about these kinds of things, but going on their spiel they certainly seem to be implying it is better.
Mick.
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15th December 2020, 05:40 PM #36
Looks like a copy of the Powermatic 3520?
Pat
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15th December 2020, 08:44 PM #37GOLD MEMBER
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Neil, as best as I can remember when Gregmach imported the 1st batch of Laguna lathes into Aus they were made in China from the same castings as the Powermatic's by Harvey Industries. They were for the US market as they have a UN8 1 1/4" spindle thread, but were retrofitted with a 240v Delta VSD and 3phase AC motor for Australia. Not sure how many were sold here before they changed to the welded construction.
I went to the Brisbane Timber and Working with Wood Show to look at the lathe on Gregmach's stand and they had both the Laguna and the Powermatic side by side, so you could see the identical castings except for the headstock.
Rgds,
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16th December 2020, 09:36 AM #38
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16th December 2020, 11:01 AM #39
Yes, Pat, there is a lot of rebadging happening now with castings coming out of the same source factories and then optioned up or down to target different markets and price points.
Looking past the different paint jobs, the same DNA can be seen. Although, it is often the fittings that make a difference to the usability of a lathe. So, buyers still have to take a close look to see if they are getting value for their particular purposes.Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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16th December 2020, 08:43 PM #40GOLD MEMBER
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I just had another squiz at that clip from Timbecon. I've just been doing some work with an ungainly piece of timber and with something like what I had on my lathe, I really appreciated the safety factor of having a "remote to the work piece control," at the rear of my lathe. Meaning I can start something turning without standing in the line of fire, which is what one aims for whenever using a lathe.
If you look at the clip at 5'30" you will see Andrew starting the lathe with his entire arm wrapped around the piece to start the lathe. There is also the issue of having your face and chest literally cm's away from the now revolving blank. I'm not exactly sure I would be comfortable turning the speed up with a large rough blank attached to the wobble point, then a slight back off.
Mick.
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17th December 2020, 02:38 PM #41
My preference is to have a movable control and to locate that in the optimum position for both safety and comfort. Mine is usually next to me well away from the lathe and out of the firing line.
But that feature comes at an extra cost, which for me is money well spent.
Others might have different priorities.Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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30th July 2022, 12:34 PM #42
Adding the Record Power Coronet Envoy to the list with available info and current price.
Note: The prices on the lathes previously put on the list are all likely to have gone up since they were posted back in Nov 2020.
Make Record Power Model Coronet Envoy Nominal HP 2 kW 1.5 Configuration Sliding/Swivel Hd. Centre Height to Bed 205mm Swing over bed/gap 410mm Outboard Swing 1000mm Between Centers 610mm Working Height
to Centre? Swivel Head Yes Sliding Head Yes Thread M33 x 3.5 Indexing Holes 24 Morse Taper No 2 Bearings EVS via
3 Ratios250 - 3800 rpm 2 Ratios Reverse Toolrest Post 1" Headstock Bore Through Tailstock Quill Travel Net Weight 140 kg Dimen L x W x H 1435 x 540 x 1210 Features & factors Cast iron Indicative price
(excluding delivery)$3,000 Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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30th July 2022, 01:51 PM #43
hughie mark 2
you could try the Hughie Mk 2
Dual bed, major swing 900, secondary 500, 1.5m between centres, triple bearing headstock, motor as big as you want, extra long banjo 300+, any colour want as long as its black.Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso
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4th August 2022, 09:46 AM #45
OK, here is the Regent now added:
Addition to Larger lathes currently available here in Australia Added: 4 Aug 2022 Make Record Record Model Coronet Envoy Coronet Regent Nominal HP 2 3 kW 1.5 2 Configuration Sliding/Swivel Hd. Sliding/Swivel Hd. Centre Height to Bed 205mm 205mm Swing over bed/gap 410mm 460mm Outboard Swing 1000mm 1000mm Between Centers 610mm 610mm Working Height
to Centre? ? Swivel Head Yes Yes Sliding Head Yes Yes Thread M33 x 3.5 M33 x 3.5 Indexing Holes 24 24 Morse Taper No 2 No 2 Bearings EVS via
3 Ratios250 - 3800 rpm 250 - 3800 rpm 2 Ratios Reverse Toolrest Post 1" 1" Headstock Bore Through Tailstock Quill Travel Net Weight 140 kg 145 kg Dimen L x W x H 1435 x 540 x 1210 1480 x 540 x 12150 Features & factors Cast iron Cast iron Indicative price
(excluding delivery)$3,000 $3,600 Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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