Larger lathes currently available here in Australia

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 12:22 PM

Another thread on this forum on the latest changes to Woodfast's operations included some discussion on their new biggy, the WL3040. That prompted me to bring together an update on the current options for bigger lathes that are currently available to us here in Australia.

For the purposes of this exercise I defined 'bigger' as lathes with 2HP and above.

These lathes are not where novices or occasional turners would start looking to buy a lathe. Someone else might like to do a similar exercise for 'mid-range' lathes that are more suited there and post that as a separate thread.

Most of us don't need a bigger sized lathe. For example, I rarely need any more than the 1.5HP on my current lathe... I can turn with that any blank that I can manage to lift onto the lathe nowadays...

... the one exception being the coring of larger blanks, however, most turners are not into coring so that is not a factor for them.

I have only included lathes in this list that are available from the 'primary' manufacturers and not the re-badged and generics that have been engineered down to a lower price point on the basis that by the time you are considering lathes in this range that shortcuts on build to achieve a lower price point won't be among your primary considerations.

There are a few gaps in the list where I couldn't readily find the details, like the prices on the Stubbies. That could be a bit like some of the watches I saw on display in a shop in Zurich without a price tag... they say if you have to ask for the price, you can't afford it!

If anyone has any of the details that I couldn't readily find I will add those. Also, if you think there are any local offering in this bigger lathe range from a 'primary' manufacturer that I have missed then let me know and I will add those.

Should I decide to get a bigger lathe than my current otherwise adequate 1.5HP one, I now have an up to date list (as of Oct 2020) as my starting point that might also be useful for anyone else who might be doing likewise.

Of course, there may still be the odd old Wadkin lurking out there waiting to be snapped up by you, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen...

PS - I'm not sure how well a wide spreadsheet will display with the forum software, so I'll add it as a downloadable PDF file as an attachment to one of my following post.

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 12:31 PM

Hmm... the forum software didn't like the size of that spreadsheet table. I'll try and see if breaking it into two will work. Yes, I know that somewhat defeats the purpose of a table, but some may not have spreadsheet software on heir devices to display the attachment in the above post.

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 12:36 PM

Larger lathes currently available here in Australia
As at: October 2020

Sheet 1

Make	Vicmarc	Vicmarc	Vicmarc	Woodfast	Woodfast
Model	VL300S ASM	VL300SML	VL240	WL3040A	M910
Nominal HP	3	2	2 or 2	3 (4?)	2
kW	2.2	1.5	1.5 or 1.5	2.2 (?)
Configuration	Short Bed		Standard/ Heavy Opt	Sliding bed	Standard
Centre Height to Bed	300mm	300mm	240mm	397mm	260mm
Swing over bed/gap	600mm	600mm	490mm	794mm	520mm
Outboard Swing
Between Centers	500mm	500mm	500mm	1016mm	975mm
Working Height to Centre	1070-1370mm	1070-1370mm	1020-1195mm/ 1065-1340mm	1118 mm
Swivel Head	No	No	Yes/Yes	No	No
Sliding Head	No	No	No/No	No	No
Thread	M30 x 3.5mm	M30 x 3.5mm	M30 x 3.5mm	M30 x 3.5mm	M30 x 3.5mm
Indexing Holes	24	24	24	36	24
Morse Taper	No 2	No 2	No 2	No 2	No 2
Bearings	Tapered	Tapered	Tapered		4 x Quatro
EVS via 3 Ratios	10-3000 rpm	10-3000 rpm	10-3000 rpm	20 - 3,850rpm	50-3890 rpm
2 Ratios
Reverse	Yes	Yes	Yes	?	?
Toolrest Post	30mm	30mm	30mm	25.4 mm	25.4 mm
Headstock Bore	15mm	15mm	15mm	10mm	15mm
Through Tailstock	10.5mm	10.5mm	10.5mm	10mm	15mm
Quill Travel	75mm	75mm	75mm	120mm	100mm
Net Weight	296kg	?	250kg/299kg	249/303Kg	179Kg
Dimen L x W x H	1060x720x1280mm		1270x710x1280	Pkg size 1670679860mm
Features & factors	5mm metal adjust height stand 700mm footprint Digital RPM Movable control Ext bed option	4mm fixed metal stand	Adjust Ht 4mm/4-6mm stand 700mm footprint Digital RPM Movable control Ext bed option	Movable control Sliding bed - power assist Direct wiring to 20A 1Ph circuit required	Traditional offering
Indicative price (excluding delivery)	$6,792.00	$5,555.00	$5,978/$6,572	$4,999	$4,279

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 12:37 PM

Larger lathes currently available here in Australia
As at: October 2020

Sheet 2

Make	Stubby	Stubby	Laguna	Laguna	Nova	Nova
Model	S1000	S750 bench mount	REVO 24-36	REVO 18-36	Orion 18-22 DVR	SATURN DVR
Nominal HP	2 or 3	2	3	2	2	2
kW	1.5/2.2	1.5	2.2	1.5
Configuration	Standard/Opt	Swing bed
Centre Height to Bed	500mm (max) with depth limit	375mm (max) with depth limit	304.5mm	225mm
Swing over bed/gap	1,000mm (max) with depth limits	750mm (max) with depth limits	609mm	450mm	457mm	400mm
Outboard Swing			965mm	800mm	736mm - Option	737mm - Option
Between Centers	1,000mm	1,000mm	914mm	900mm	578mm	610mm
Working Height to Centre	1080mm	To bench top 500mm	1130mm	1050mm
Swivel Head	No	No	No	No	Yes
Sliding Head	No	No	Yes	Yes	No
Thread	M30 x 3.5mm	M30 x 3.5mm	M30 x 3.5	M30 x 3.5	1 1/4"x 8TPI
Indexing Holes	24	24	14/36/48	14/36/48	24
Morse Taper	No2	No2	No2	No2	No2	No2
Bearings	Sealed taper	Sealed taper	Sealed	Sealed
EVS via 3 Ratios	50 - 3890	50 - 3890			Continuous 100-5,000rpm
2 Ratios			50-3,500rpm	50-3,500rpm
Reverse	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Toolrest Post	1"	1"	25.4mm (1")	25.4mm (1")
Headstock Bore	10mm	10mm	9.5mm	9.5mm
Through Tailstock	10mm	10mm	9.5mm	9.5mm	?	?
Quill Travel	?	?	114mm	114mm	?	?
Net Weight	400kg	270kg	242kg/255kg	194kg	186kgs	141kgs
Dimen L x W x H	?	?	15246601327mm	15406601194mm	11305971245mm
Features & factors	Auxiliary and swing bed Direct Electical wiring	Aux Swing/bed Direct Electical wiring	Steel bed 2nd movable control End of bed outboard option 15A circuit	Steel bed End of bed outboard option 15A circuit	Optional outboard 10A circuit	Opt outboard 10A circuit
Indicative price (excluding delivery)	$?,???	$?,???	$5,580	$4,170	$3,989	$3,848

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 12:48 PM

OK, as it turned out, the data displayed by the forum is more complete than in the spreadsheet. For whatever reason the multiple lines within some cells got truncated to just one line in the file!

Anyway, the attached PDF file looks to be all there...

**Pat** · 25th October 2020, 02:20 PM

Hello Neil, I can confirm my 2009 manufacture Woodfast M910 has 15mm thru the tail and headstock. The why they (Woodfast) went with only a 10mm knockout bar is beyond me.

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Pat

Hello Neil, I can confirm my 2009 manufacture Woodfast M910 has 15mm thru the tail and headstock. why they (Woodfast) went with only a 10mm knockout bar is beyond me.

Thanks, Pat.

I have removed the query on that.

**Optimark** · 25th October 2020, 05:11 PM

Looks good Neil, should be a very helpful thread.

There is another lathe on the cusp of being available in Australia, at least in Victoria anyway it would seem as they are taking orders. The Record Power Coronet Regent Heavy Duty unit, seems to fit the power requirements. It has a 2kW power output. One interesting feature is that it can be run completely left handed by turning the head 180º, sliding it to the other end and running the lathe in reverse. A feature my left handed brother would probably love.

M M Vic Sales and Service - M M Vic Sales and Service

Mick.

**Optimark** · 25th October 2020, 05:19 PM

The Head Stock bearings of the Laguna lathes, are standard sealed bearings, two per unit.

Mick.

**RSD** · 25th October 2020, 05:30 PM

You need to also add the "MegaStubby" to the list

Mine is the first of this new model

**Optimark** · 25th October 2020, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by RSD

You need to also add the "MegaStubby" to the list

Mine is the first of this new model

Ooooh, pictures and information would be nice; some serious gloating needs to happen.

Mick.

**RSD** · 25th October 2020, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Optimark

Ooooh, pictures and information would be nice; some serious gloating needs to happen.

Mick.

MegaStubby.jpg
Will swing a 1400mm diameter piece, 1000mm between centres

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Optimark

Looks good Neil, should be a very helpful thread.

There is another lathe on the cusp of being available in Australia, at least in Victoria anyway it would seem as they are taking orders. The Record Power Coronet Regent Heavy Duty unit, seems to fit the power requirements. It has a 2kW power output. One interesting feature is that it can be run completely left handed by turning the head 180º, sliding it to the other end and running the lathe in reverse. A feature my left handed brother would probably love.

M M Vic Sales and Service - M M Vic Sales and Service

Mick.

Thanks, Mick.

Yes, but interestingly enough it will come with M33 x 3.5 thread. That has me puzzled. Who here uses that? It seems like they are just offloading their Northern Hemisphere stuff on us without trying!

I did see a bunch of Coronets being used on the woodturning cruise in 2018. A decent enough lathe that nobody complained about but to my eye they did look a bit puny when lined up beside a Vicmarc.

I might wait until they have been delivered and I get an authoritative thumbs up from someone before adding them to the list.

**NeilS** · 25th October 2020, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by RSD

You need to also add the "MegaStubby" to the list

Mine is the first of this new model

Thanks, RDS.

Hadn't been added to the Stubby website (that I could see) when I looked, but if you have the specs and the price I will add it to the list.

**smiife** · 25th October 2020, 07:40 PM

My woodfast M910 doesn't have reverse.?.. or have I missed out ?

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