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Thread: First Lathe Advice
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13th June 2012, 11:50 PM #16
Bowl-Basher (aka Graham) has often said in the past that the cougar (from Trend Timbers) is worth a look in.
I've got an MC1100 (from H&F), and although cheap does most of what I want it to do at this stage. If I could have justified the expenditure, I would have gotten a Vicmarc, but the MC1100 does me fine for the moment; bowls, pens, and various other 'stuff'.
If you do consider a MC900 or MC1100, I'd recommend trauling through this website. There are a bunch of posts about what to look for when purchasing one, and secondly things that you can do to 'improve' the lathe. (maybe not improve, more build on what it does out of the box).
One of the things I do wish the MC1100 had (apart from EVS), is a hand wheel on the back of the head stock; particularly when turning pens or other small spindle work, or even when turning bowls over as I'm applying a wipe on or paint on finish.
As others have probably already suggested, take a look on this forum, there's a wealth of turning knowledge here. Also check out your local club, can be invaluable.
.. just my two bobs ... either way good luck.Regards
TT
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14th June 2012, 12:10 AM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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I have a Carbatec MC1100. It's just a longer bed than the MC900 and as the others have mentioned, it is more limited than more expensive machines but still capable of allowing you to produce good work. A slower lowend speed and electronically variable speed would be nice but it all costs $. At the time it was all I could afford (and still is).
I don't think I'll replace it but rather just add a mini or midi as a second lathe. These are within your budget too.
I decided to commit over the Christmas-New Year break one year and did most of the buying homework myself. My local turning club was shutdown until early Feb, didn't know about the forum and so I was really in the dark. I didn't even know what a chuck was and now own an expensive chinese paperweight I bought at the last minute. I replaced with a Supernova2 within months.
You will find good turning tools and grinder are a big part of the budget too. There are often deals on chisel sets to be found on ebay. Just ask on the forum for opiinions on brands if you're unsure.
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14th June 2012, 10:09 AM #18SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks very much for the replies guys, is really appreciated.
My problem is that I do not understand a lot of what you are saying?
Neal I read your post with interest but unfortunately I do not understand it )
Basically I guess I want to know what kind of things can I make on it and what can't I make.
Thanks again.
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14th June 2012, 12:10 PM #19
Wood fast mini best bang for your buck
About $400DANGER!!!!I'm Dyslexic Spelling may offend!!!!!
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14th June 2012, 01:28 PM #20SENIOR MEMBER
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Can that do things like salt and pepper mills, bowls, tool handles, mallets etc?
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14th June 2012, 02:22 PM #21Member
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Arry,
I have the Hare and Forbes lathe equivalent to what is discussed above. As i live in Perth you are welcome to come around and have a look at it.
Cheers
Pete
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14th June 2012, 02:22 PM #22Retro Phrenologist
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With a budget of $1000, if you want a new machine and spindle length is not important, go for the Woodfast midi.
Woodfast Mini Lathe : CARBA-TEC
A really good lathe.
You will have some money left over for tools, a chuck perhaps and incidentals such as finishes and sandpaper.____________________________________________________________
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14th June 2012, 03:59 PM #23SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks very much, what does spindle length mean?
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14th June 2012, 04:06 PM #24GOLD MEMBER
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Spindle turning is turning with a piece of wood supported at both ends - by the headstock at one end and the tailstock at the other. Spindle length then is the length of the spindle - the piece of wood. Maximum spindle length is the maximum length of wood that you can turn between centres (supports). Essentially it is a function of the length of the bed of the lathe.
The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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14th June 2012, 04:45 PM #25Retro Phrenologist
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The Woodfast is about 400 mm long, the MC 900 about twice that. If you are not going to turn long stuff the Woodfast will do the job. For mallet handles and pepper grinders etc. it is more than enough.
IF you want to turn bigger stuff, and you probably will at some stage, then you need a bigger lathe. Of course the bigger they are the more money .
Don't forget that you need all the tools and accessories to come out of your budget.____________________________________________________________
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I have one of these and picked up the 600mm extension bed for about $100. Having the removable extension has it swings and roundabouts. Being removable it can leave valuable bench space free. OTOH it is probably not as rigid for long work as a dedicated/fixed length lathe. Although for light work I reckon it's OK.
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14th June 2012, 11:42 PM #27
Arry,
I suggest you take up the offer from the turner in PERTH , .
Go and see his equipment and learn about the equipment and the part names etc,
BEFORE YOU BUY ANYTHING.
Your other alternative , is to find your nearest WOOD TURNING Club.
All the advice from others , is meaningless , unless you understand what they are saying. (NO OFFENSE TO OTHER MEMBERS WHO HAVE POSTED)
Jeff
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15th June 2012, 02:43 PM #28
One thing to consider is that while the mc900 or 1100 discussed here are solid cast iron construction, they come with a flimsy steel set of legs which limits them greatly. I built a more rigid and useful bench for mine. The optional cast iron legs are also great if you don't have the time to build something else and budget accordingly.
Good luck and I also suggest getting hands on before you part with $$$$Cheers,
Shannon.
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Arry, good on you for wanting to have a go, and you're in the right place to ask the right questions.
By the sounds of things, like asking what was meant by spindle turning, and not understanding mine and others posts a little, a bit of research on your part might go a long way to helping you out more. I'm not having a go, just trying to assist.
Find a basic beginners turning book, from the local library or if you see one shopping, give it a read and make sure to get into the glossary, there are a lot of terms some of us turners take for granted that don't otherwise come up in regular conversations.
Likewise if your a woody type already, hit google and look for a local club, they'll most likely have a little bit more specific selection to read or borrow too, theyre a great resource even if its just the people your interacting with face to face while there.
Neal.
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