Thread: still learning the hard way

Originally Posted by Tonyz

So what did I do wrong? how else would I put a collar on this piece.

That's what I do, all the time, Tony

Was the blank screwed on hard up against the ring?

Did you bring the tailstock centre up against the other end to support it? That was a long piece if it wasn't supported at the tailstock end.

In my case I use the screws that are held by the jaws of the chuck and have never had one snap off like that.

I go from screws to faceplate rings on blanks above 12" diam.

A larger drive dog could have held that piece between centres until you put a tenon on it. I have a few different larger ones, including these two ...

NOVA CHUCK SPUR CENTER ACCESSORY (SKU NCSC AND 71009) - NOVA, a Teknatool Brand

Chuck Drive Dog

I also have another even larger one that I can't spot an image for. It has probably been banned from public viewing...

In woodturning there is always another bit of kit that you can buy!

Originally Posted by NeilS

That's what I do, all the time, Tony

Was the blank screwed on hard up against the ring? yes

Did you bring the tailstock centre up against the other end to support it? That was a long piece if it wasn't supported at the tailstock end. tailstock centre up? err no. I was going for a bowl, 2nd pic you can see the embedded end of thread

In my case I use the screws that are held by the jaws of the chuck and have never had one snap off like that. well there ya go, you've seen it now.

I go from screws to faceplate rings on blanks above 12" diam.

A larger drive dog could have held that piece between centres until you put a tenon on it. I have a few different larger ones, including these two ...

NOVA CHUCK SPUR CENTER ACCESSORY (SKU NCSC AND 71009) - NOVA, a Teknatool Brand

Chuck Drive Dog a shopping we will go again,

I also have another even larger one that I can't spot an image for. It has probably been banned from public viewing...

In woodturning there is always another bit of kit that you can buy!

Bugga

I was going for a bowl, 2nd pic you can see the embedded end of thread

Looking closer at that log (you sure set yourself a challenge there Tony) perhaps something more like this one would do a better job on that uneven surface...

Elio-DR Safe Drive, 3.5" - Woodturning Tool Store

I reckon it wouldn't be too had to make one of those out of one of your existing faceplates.

thanks Neil,
I picked up Trailer load of woodwork gear about 4 years ago for a steal price and slowly (work gets in the way....and procrastination ) getting things sorted out. I still have no idea how many different chucks and accessories there are.
So thanks for that pic will have a go at something over the weekend.

Meanwhile I will revert to trying to make vases and IF want to try bowls use smoother pieces of timber

This is something I invented back in 2010. I was tired of burying my spur in my wood as I got catches in the first stages of roughing. I also didn't like the fact you have to clean up pieces to mount onto a face plate, and also didn't like the screw holes using faceplates required. I've done over a thousand pieces ranging for 1 1/2" od upwards to 19"OD and haven't lost a single piece since. The worm screw just didn't look very stout to me, and haven't ever used one even though I have 5 of them.









My prototype was made of wood, and served me well until I started making them in Aluminum. Get some 3/4"(19mm) Baltic Birch plywood. Cut at least a 5+" square and another to be at least 3/4"larger than your chuck jaws outer OD. Mark centers on both pieces. Drill out a pilot hole on both pieces. Jam chuck the smaller tenon piece and turn completely round, then reduce turn for jaw fit whatever it takes to have this tenon piece fit up against the jaw faces. You'll have a step for the jaws to rest on. Drill a pilot hole at the center for the screws you are gonna use. Glue both pieces together using the pilot holes for alignment. After glue is set, turn face piece until it is round. Draw a couple circles for your screws Keep one set inside the tenon, and Keep the outer ring at least 1/2" from the outer edge. All the screws are at 45 degrees apart. Eight are on the outer ring and 4 are in the center plus the center screw. Total of 13 screws. This way, there is now need to do anything to the face of the piece that is at the headstock end.

If you have any questions, please ask. Be glad to help. ................... Jerry (in Tucson)USA

been there Tony, Jerry I have something similar that goes on the tailstock for rogue blanks

thank you Jerry, thats worth copying.

Would it be ok to bash the bolts through the pre drilled ply, then before tightening add some decent glue and use nuts to tighten. Then when dried remove the nuts.
But how/where do I get bolts with points like those from?

Something like this in the first picture, Hughie?? I made that live center with a long nose as I firmly believe they are absolutely necessary, but now I had to put something on it. Actually I was losing my stuff at the tail stock, so made the Nose Ring to compensate.

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With the combination of the Chuck Plate and the Nose Ring, I doubt I'll ever lose another piece.
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Tonyz, if you guys have Tapcon screws, use the 1/4". Drill a 3/16" hole and screw them in. For the outer ring of screws, all you need is 1-1 1/4" long, and for the center you would need 1 1/2. That would give you 1/2" screw sticking out. But, you can do whatever you think will help you out and if my chuck plate can help, I would feel good about someone copying one for themselves.

Those screws on my Chuck Plate are just 1/4-28 set screws that I had to turn the points on. I did all this at a friends welding shop that had a lathe and mill. I made a hundred Chuck Plates, but also needed to make 1300 screws. It was pretty easy after I mad a jig for mounting. Took about 3 days for the screws. Drilling and tapping the holes for the screws was somewhat nerve racking but got'em done and only have about 3 Chuck Plates left.

Here is a mounting I did a couple years ago. Juniper from Arizona, and only 2 screws actually held it until I managed to get a 100mm tenon turned onto it, and just last week I finally started turning the OD. From my Photo album, this picture is correct, but on this site it rotated to the left, and I don't know how to correct it
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Thanks for your comments, Yall. ................ Jerry (in Tucson)USA

Tapcon screws just recently discovered these, what bloody little rippers for concrete walls thanks mate

Originally Posted by Nubsnstubs

Something like this in the first picture, Hughie?? I made that live center with a long nose as I firmly believe they are absolutely necessary, but now I had to put something on it. Actually I was losing my stuff at the tail stock, so made the Nose Ring to compensate.

F74BBC8D-77FA-4142-9153-1165D5489319.jpg

With the combination of the Chuck Plate and the Nose Ring, I doubt I'll ever lose another piece.
064B820A-7792-454C-AD4A-F166019DDEC8.jpg
Tonyz, if you guys have Tapcon screws, use the 1/4". Drill a 3/16" hole and screw them in. For the outer ring of screws, all you need is 1-1 1/4" long, and for the center you would need 1 1/2. That would give you 1/2" screw sticking out. But, you can do whatever you think will help you out and if my chuck plate can help, I would feel good about someone copying one for themselves.

Those screws on my Chuck Plate are just 1/4-28 set screws that I had to turn the points on. I did all this at a friends welding shop that had a lathe and mill. I made a hundred Chuck Plates, but also needed to make 1300 screws. It was pretty easy after I mad a jig for mounting. Took about 3 days for the screws. Drilling and tapping the holes for the screws was somewhat nerve racking but got'em done and only have about 3 Chuck Plates left.

Here is a mounting I did a couple years ago. Juniper from Arizona, and only 2 screws actually held it until I managed to get a 100mm tenon turned onto it, and just last week I finally started turning the OD. From my Photo album, this picture is correct, but on this site it rotated to the left, and I don't know how to correct it
EEF87E3A-63E3-4DBE-8529-9EAB727F9B53.jpg

Thanks for your comments, Yall. ................ Jerry (in Tucson)USA

Yup did the same, actually I have a few of them very handy item

I agree there, Hughie. I wouldn't be able to do half the stuff I do if I hadn't made them, both the CP and the Nose Ring. Can you post a picture of them?

I made one for the revolving head live centers that have to 60 degree point, and one day, I'm going to thread another for the live centers that have threads on them.

I'm surprised that my Chuck Plate, the Nose Ring and my Tail Stock Steady haven't been made before. My opinion is that they are very indispensable tools. .............. Jerry (in Tucson)USA

Originally Posted by Nubsnstubs

I agree there, Hughie. I wouldn't be able to do half the stuff I do if I hadn't made them, both the CP and the Nose Ring. Can you post a picture of them?

I made one for the revolving head live centers that have to 60 degree point, and one day, I'm going to thread another for the live centers that have threads on them.

I'm surprised that my Chuck Plate, the Nose Ring and my Tail Stock Steady haven't been made before. My opinion is that they are very indispensable tools. .............. Jerry (in Tucson)USA

Jerry I have an array of them, not all used all the time, some are less aggressive as they are for holding or rather pushing up against near complete or completed pieces.
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