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    Yeah, derivations are tricky.

    OED went with common usage, bless 'em.

    One version I've read was 'pomme' = French for apple = the colours of English migrant complexions.

    Least for the first few days they were here ;-}

    Well, bit OT eh Vern?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Yeah, derivations are tricky.

    OED went with common usage, bless 'em.

    One version I've read was 'pomme' = French for apple = the colours of English migrant complexions.

    Least for the first few days they were here ;-}

    Well, bit OT eh Vern?
    That was Nino Culotta's version in "They are a weird mob" IIRC.

    The ryming slang for immigrant was actually Jimmy Grant, Pummy (Pommy) Grant indicates that the graft with the pomegranate had already taken.

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    The thought just struck me: is there any evidence of wooden goblets with captive rings in the 17th century? It does not sound right to me. If they indeed existed, a weird story like that could even be true, can't see any practical reason for turning them otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Y..........Well, bit OT eh Vern?
    No worries Ern - interesting just to see the way the twists and turns go sometimes Basically just wanted to see if anyone else thought the story had any credibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gra View Post
    What does that story tell us about skew?......
    It tells us Gra he hates RINGS ( because they always brake . ) or so he says .
    insanity is a state of mind if you don't mind it does not matter.

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    Well, they do!

    No, not when I'm turning... when some kack-handed visitor picks up the goblet and gives it a vigorous shake to "hear them rattle."

    A few years back I made a twin-ring goblet for my bro as a special order Chrissy gift for his SWMBO. Nicely boxed and all. When I next dropped in on him, there it was on the mantelpiece... but without any rings. When I asked about it, I was embarassedly told by my bro: "Well, she likes to shake the present first and guess what's inside. This one had her guessing for five minutes..."
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