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22nd November 2010, 11:00 PM #16
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23rd November 2010, 11:15 AM #17
Just for comparison sizes
Scraper sizes:
My Sorby scrapers are 5.95 mm and 6.29 mm thick
My P&N is 8mm
Northwood cheapies approx 6.5mm
For skews:
Thompson 1 1/4" is 8mm thick
P&N 24mm is 8mm thick
P&N 12mm is 6mm thickregards
Nick
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23rd November 2010, 11:27 AM #18
Regarding Scrapers - We could make chisel blanks with square ends, then people can grind what ever shape and purpsose they like. What do people think? Say 12, 20, and 30 mm wide out of the 6.5 mm sheet.
Regarding the scraper tips, it would not be a problem. If you could get me clear photo (top down plan view) of the exact shape / radius of the tear drop and any angles on them, and all dimensions of any other types of scrapers, they could be made from the 4.5 mm sheet.
The RUFF cost would about $10 +/- ($3 steel, $5 waterjet, $1.5 heat treat), NO grinding. Grinding would add another $25 to the cost.
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23rd November 2010, 12:15 PM #19Hewer of wood
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I can give you a pic against graph paper of the Sorby tear-drop and the Munro version.
IIRC they both come with a square edge.
Grinding that leaves distinct scratches that need polishing out would not be an advantage in my view. But if the cut steel is not flat the scrapers are best lapped and polished anyway.Cheers, Ern
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23rd November 2010, 01:08 PM #20Hewer of wood
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Tear drop scrapers
Here ya go; on 5mm grid.
Left one is the Sorby, 3mm thick. The right is the Munro, 2.7mm thick.
Haven't bothered to pic a Woodcut; not a fan.
This Sorby has a bevelled edge but I can't recall whether that was from the factory or I did it.
These are finishing tools in my book and benefit from a refined edge. Lapping the Munro took forever and as you can see I ran out of puff.
Sorby recommends sharpening by running a diamond lap over the top face. So you are not cutting with a burr.
I have a slight pref for the Sorby shape; a bit more versatile than the Munro.
HTH.Last edited by rsser; 23rd November 2010 at 01:12 PM. Reason: spellink
Cheers, Ern
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23rd November 2010, 04:18 PM #21
Here is the draft drawings of the scrapers.
Ern can you confirm the dimensions.
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23rd November 2010, 05:11 PM #22Hewer of wood
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Nice CAD work Helmut.
Corrections added.
If you go down this route put me down for 2 of each, unground.Cheers, Ern
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23rd November 2010, 06:31 PM #23
I have updated the CAD
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23rd November 2010, 09:29 PM #24
Scraper tips
Further to my previous post regarding the scraper tips, I'm very interested ...
but ...
... ... ...
And is there a final price (per 'tip') yet?
Thanks in advanceRegards
TT
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24th November 2010, 12:33 PM #25
thumb trimmer - The RUFF cost would about $10 +/- ($3.5 steel, $3.5 waterjet, $2 heat treat), NO grinding.
Grinding would add another $25 to the cost.
Once we have filled both sheets, a PM will be sent regarding payment option.
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24th November 2010, 04:57 PM #26
thumbsucker,
Please put me down for two of each (of the scraper 'tips'), unground.
Thanks
.Regards
TT
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Quotes;
"He who dies with the most toys ...errr ... tools wins"
"Anybody can become a woodworker, but only a Craftsmen can hide his mistakes!"
"I work to support my woodworking habit."
"Turn it, don't burn it!"
... and my personal favourite ...
"It's not a mistake, it's a design feature!"
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25th November 2010, 11:46 AM #27
thumb trimmer I have put you down for the scraper tips.
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25th November 2010, 10:13 PM #28
put me down for 2 each of the scraper tips unground as well please
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25th November 2010, 11:27 PM #29
Yup, I'll be in it for a couple of the scraper tips & I'll put my hand up for a couple of small skews as well.
A 12 x 6.5 & a 6 x 4.5 please.Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
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26th November 2010, 01:15 PM #30
TS, please put me down for four scraper tips, two of each profile.
Thanks
.Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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