Thread: M2 HSS Turning Chisel Batch Order

Yes thank you stuffy (pm sent) and TS also much appreciated.

Thanks TS.

As PMd, I've transferred $72 for 3 scrapers + postage to the old account cos I'm going upcountry for a while and my banking arrangements are in flux.

Hello All

I have attached a pdf to the all of the threads related to the paring, firmer, turning chisel & plane blades for wooden plane blade batch orders.

The pdf contains corrections to what people have ordered. More importantly I have added a page at the bottom of pdf. Listing everyones member name, and what they owe for each of the batch orders. I have then totaled what is owing including postage in the green column. I have also included who has paid and what date.

This should make it easier to figure out what you need to deposit.

At this point only 14 people out of 60 have paid. If those remaining could do as soon as they can, we can get the order of the ground asap. If you cannot do so, please send me an email at:

thewoodworkingbatchorders at gmail dot com


Future Batch Orders

For those who have not read Ubeaut Neil has posted an announcement regarding future batch orders here.

This means that this current batch order is the last batch order we will undertake on this forum. I am considering some options. However it depends on how much people are interested in continuing these batch orders. I have a really nice idea that will expand the batch order while making the whole process simpler and quicker.

So in the mean time, I would like to shift communications away from PM to email. So can you forward me your email address to thewoodworkingbatchorders at gmail dot com it will be appreciated.

Cheers

Thumbsucker

My payment should be through TS, paid a couple of days back, if not yet very soon.

Hello All

This is a quick post to say that Ultimate Laser, who are doing the water jet cutting for the Paring, Firmer, Turning, and plane blades for wooden planes batch order. Has received the two sheets of M2 from Bohler.

Russel inform me that the waterjet cutting should be done sometime this week. Then RayG will pick up the items possible next week sometime, depending on his schedule. I will transfer $2310.40 to RayG and he will pay in cash on pick up.

As more information comes to hand I will PM you.

Cheers


Thumbsucker

Hello All

The last few weeks have been trying for myself on varying fronts. Having to deal with the debacle with the postage of the Stanley batch order. Which has resulted in frayed nerves for everyone involved. Thankfully at this point we look like we have a resolution. Then I have been busy with my real work, that is preparing for my Grad. Dip. graduation and exhibition, which is now only 54 days away. In short I have been rather stressed.

Now regarding the Paring, Firmer, Turning, & Plane Blade Batch order. About two weeks ago. We took possession of all the items from the waterjet cutter. Here is a list of problems RayG and I are facing.

1. Many of the items were cut undersize in width. Now the reason for this is complex but has to do with the way the kerf of the waterjet, narrows and slopes as it travels through the material, now I had made sure to draw all items 0.5 mm oversize yet this seems to have been not enough. Now the width is not critical for the plane blades and the turning chisels. However for the firmer and paring chisels we are aiming for exact widths.
   
2. Now RayG is crossing his fingers, and trying his best to work with what we have. It all depends on how much distortion we get from the heat treatment. Best case scenario we will just make it. Worst case scenario is that we machine every size down. So a 12 mm chisel becomes a 9 mm and 9 becomes a 6 mm etc. This means that we will need to re-cut all the large size chisels again. Luckily we have enough steel left over to do so. However this would be unwelcome. We would also end up with a bunch of 2 or 1.5 mm wide chisels, from the 3 mm chisels.

PEOPLE WHO MISSED OUT

A few people have PM me, seeking paring and firmer chisels. I spoke to RayG, now we have a good amount of 7 mm and 4.5 mm M2 sheet left. We can make more sets of anything to fill out those sheets. However Ray wants to finish the current batch order before we do so. So if you are interest in something, Pm me and I will put your name and want on a list.

FUNDS

The other problem we are facing is a cost overrun due to increased cost of the steel, and the problems with the waterjet cutters. I will not know by how much, I can only figure out how much we are short once the final bills come in.

At this point I have paid RayG $2000 for his work. Which is almost half of what we will end up owing him. We still need to pay for the Heat Treating which could be up to $2000. Then postage cost which will be about a $1000. Its going to be very tight.

I have not had time to check who has paid. Last time I checked everyone has paid something so as to secure their share. However we are still about $4000 plus short from members. I will check the bank figure out who is short and were and I will PM you.

We also have some plane blades still up for grabs from people who dropped out and we have a few 35 mm paring chisels and a few extra skews paring chisels, as the waterjet cutter for some reason cut extra.

This weekend I will go over the funds situation and count up the pennies. So expect an update shortly.

Photos

Now Ray has been surface grinding all the items. He is really working above and beyond the call of duty. I honestly feel that we should compensate him for this extra effort. So when the dust settles I will be asking for a donation for those willing to do so. Here are some photos of what has been going on.



















ETA

Ray should have the pre-grinding done in the next two weeks. The next step is for the items to go the heat treaters. Now the heat treating could take up to two months. It should take only a few weeks, however by the time the steel gets shipped to the Salt furnace then back to Melbourne for cryo. Then admin, and billing and shipping back to Ray it all adds up. If we are lucky we will get the steel back before the xmas holidays. However if we do not then it could be mid January before the steel comes back from the heat treaters. In short I would not expecting these items before March 2012.

Because I am very busy with work and studies, I do not haver much time, I will however try to get any news to you as soon as possible.

I assume that will also mean that a 6mm wide (4.5 mm thick) Skew will become 3mm wide?

Originally Posted by NeilS

I assume that will also mean that a 6mm wide (4.5 mm thick) Skew will become 3mm wide?

Hi Neil,

No, the skews will be fine, the only ones that might be a bit close are the paring chisels. I'm still hopeful (somewhat confident) we will get there (with a bit of careful planning) but with only 0.2mm to play with...

Regards
Ray

Thank you for the update.

Thanks for the update. And thanks for the hard yards that you guys have obviously travelled so far.

Cheers

Hi Any news ? I've been away. I suppose because the skews aren't being surface ground they should be posted soon ?

Phil

hi guys
just wondering how this is going ??
i seen some of the pics of chisels getting ground so must be nearly ready
just with what i had ordered was only scraper tips just cut not ground just wondering when the orders might be ready ??

Thumbsucker will probably chime in when he gets a spare moment, however, it's the frantic time of year for his course.

I do know that the treatment of the steel is done in batches with everything together, otherwise the costs would be astronomical and TS let folks know that things would probably not be completed prior to March 2012.

The next step is for the items to go the heat treaters. Now the heat treating could take up to two months. It should take only a few weeks, however by the time the steel gets shipped to the Salt furnace then back to Melbourne for cryo. Then admin, and billing and shipping back to Ray it all adds up. If we are lucky we will get the steel back before the xmas holidays. However if we do not then it could be mid January before the steel comes back from the heat treaters. In short I would not expecting these items before March 2012.

Originally Posted by Horaldic

Thumbsucker will probably chime in when he gets a spare moment, however, it's the frantic time of year for his course.

I do know that the treatment of the steel is done in batches with everything together, otherwise the costs would be astronomical and TS let folks know that things would probably not be completed prior to March 2012.

thanks for that i must have missed that post about march 2012