Thread: M2 HSS Turning Chisel Batch Order

Helmut,

After no reply to a recent email and the post above about payment having been made on June 28, I now need to hear confirmation from you that $72 was transferred to your account from mine for the 3 scrapers you've contracted with me to provide.

That payment went to the CUS account named Woodworking Batch Orders.

I accept that costs have risen and that scrapers are now $25 each, and still await your reply about making up the difference.

If I don't get a reply within 7 days I will submit a complaint to the consumer affairs authorities.

I did not get an email from you as far as I know, I have been busy with assessment and am still very busy. Ern I do not understand your hostility towards me. That requires you to threaten me. It is just for this reason that I will never run another batch order.

Now that Stanley order has almost been wrapped up, I will wrap up this order, and then I will wipe my hand clean of the batch orders and the forum.

EDIT - I found the email, you sent it an account a never check. Which I have now close, for that very reason.

Helmut,

In post #109 you asked folk to use this address: [email protected]

and I sent an email to it on Nov. 28 after having observed the snail's pace progress reported here. The initial offer was over a year ago and my payment was made five months ago.

On June 10 you posted 'we are ready to go', 'in two weeks I will have time'. On Sept 21 you announced a Mar 2012 ETA.

On Nov 14 pommyphil and on Nov 27 mkypenturner asked for a progress update and got no replies.

At some point I got the impression that the scraper price had gone up to $25, emailed about this on Nov. 28 and asked again about it in a post on Nov. 30 In neither case did you reply.

It need not have come to this if there'd been replies from you or if when buyers signed up you had given them an ETA. (I for one would not have signed up with the expectation of having to wait 12 months).

I'm not hostile to you; I'm angry at how you've handled the process.

Hello Ern

• You sent the email to an address I no longer use.
• When there is news I post information. The last news is that RayG is still grinding the last items, and the heat treatment is close to starting. So nothing has changed.
• Most of these batch orders take between a 12 to sometimes 24 months.
• If you are not happy to wait then I am happy to give you your money back. Please forward me your bank details and I will repay you.

Cheers


Helmut

Your post #109 about the best way to reach you wasn't corrected here, so how was I to know?

Your last post about progress was many months ago and since then two buyers asked for but did not get updates.

My concern about sending you any extra payment needed was expressed in a post, one PM and one email to the address you asked us to use. You didn't respond to any or correct my understanding (misunderstanding?) about the changed price until I escalated the issue yesterday.

My concern in those communications was not about the rate of progress but that my failure to meet any extra costs involved was holding things up.

Thanks for your refund offer. So I can make a decision, can you now say what the likely final cost of the scrapers will be if over the $20 previously posted?

And I reiterate my offer that given that 3 scraper bits will only cost $6 or $6.60 to post, the balance of the postage paid of $12 you are welcome to keep or pass on to Ray.

Originally Posted by rsser

Thanks for your refund offer. So I can make a decision, can you now say what the likely final cost of the scrapers will be if over the $20 previously posted?

Just to help you Ern the Sorby scrapers are $ 19.95 at the Woodsmith.

Peter.

The scrapers are $20 each.

Thanks.

Since the last posted ETA was March I'll stay in.

just wondering if anybody has heard any info about this order or ever a update would be handy

RayG has finished the preliminary grinding. Last week the items were delivered to Surface Technology for heat treatment. Only to be told that they no longer offer the salt furnace heat treating service. I am now making calls for another company to take over the heat treatment. I will have something early next week. Heat treatment is fast about three week turn around. Then its back to RayG for clean up and postage. I will push to get the turning tools first of the production run.

I spoke to Gary from Hills Heat Treatment this morning. They are happy to take over the job. They charge $16 instead of $12 that Surface Technology charges. Gary says it will take them about a week to heat treat all the items.

At this point we have a cost overrun on the steel and heat treatment. I will chase up a dozen blokes who have not paid yet. As we will be needing the money for the heat treatment asap.

This means that RayG will deliver the pieces to Hills Heat Treatment sometimes soon, and we can get the ball rolling.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppReXyktaZ4"]Heat Treating Bayswater Hills Heat Treatment VIC - YouTube[/ame]

Originally Posted by thumbsucker

Hello - I am not well known in the turning forums, so let me introduce myself. I have been on the forum for the last 4 years, and have been most active in Hand Tool Forum.

I am currently a student a the ANU Furniture / Wood Workshop for the last two years.

I have a strong interest in hand tools, in particularly hand planes. While I have been two turn feasts in Melbourne, I am not a turner. I know the basics, and enjoy the causal turn.

In my time I have organized batch orders for Plane Blades for Wooden Hand Planes, Replacement Plane Blades for Stanley Bench planes, Brass Batch order, Pairing Chisel Order.

If you want to join in the turning chisel batch orders PM me Thumbsucker and I can add you to the list. We have about half of both sheets left over. The sheets will be cutting divided between plane blades, turning chisels, and firmer chisels.

I look forward to bringing turners into the batch orders. If enough turners express enough interest in turning chisels to fill a whole sheet, it would be possible to purchase a higher grade of steel, like Powder Metallurgy High Speed Steel. We can also consider thicker turning chisels like 8 mm or 10 mm thick scrapers.

Hello Thumbsucker,
I am in for a 30mm parting tool, in addition to current (paid) order. How do you want me to proceed. Thanks again, Drillit - John M.

Thanks for the updates Thumbsucker.

Paid what was owing this morning.

Thanks Pagie