Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 39
  1. #1
    Calm's Avatar
    Calm is offline Stubby Owner and proud of it. Now coming back to Earth.:D
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Niddrie, Victoria
    Age
    67
    Posts
    2,264

    Default Who makes the better chuck jaws

    With the purchase of the STUBBY i thought it would be a good idea to buy a bigger (than SN2) chuck to hold bigger bowls.from 400mm to 750 mm diameter

    The only chucks i have are 2 SN2 chucks and 6 sets of jaws - The obvious choice is the Titan chuck as the jaws are interchangable between it and the SN2 - but Jim informs me that Titan chucks are no longer available (unknown when but may never be again)

    The alternative to the Titan appears to be (hate to admit it) a vicmark yes i said it a VICMARK. (god please forgive my blasphemy)

    The delema is do i sell the Nova chucks and all the jaws and buy 2 or 3 new Vicmarks or do i just buy a vicmark and one set of jaws for big bowls. I currently use all the jaws i have.

    The information i need to help with this decision is who makes the best jaws.

    So are the Nova or Vicmark jaws better in the following sizes. (these are what i currently have.
    regards

    David


    "Tell him he's dreamin."
    "How's the serenity" (from "The Castle")

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    12,746

    Default

    VM I reckon.

    The T/tool spigot jaws in your pic have the outside edge chamfered reducing their use in expansion mode considerably.

    Their bowl jaws (your 4th pic) have the outside and inside edges rounded over reducing the power of the bight. GJ turned the faces down on mine to get rid of this and it improved the performance out of sight. It's a pity because otherwise they're a great set of kit.

    With the VM shark jaws you don't have the same serrations on the inside as the spigots and it makes no difference in my shed. You do have a nice dovetail for clean gripping down to the first 'valley' in both modes.
    Cheers, Ern

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Cranbourne West
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,612

    Default

    IMHO, Vicmarc have it all over Nova. Every single Nova set of jaws I have purchased have had burrs on them and I've had to file them smooth. The only reason I have any nova jaws at all is because I was too tight to buy a VM100 and bought a Nova G3 instead, I've regretted it ever since.
    On the other hand the Vicmarc jaws come nicely chamfered all round, not a sharp edge anywhere, beautiful workmanship.

    PS Anyone want to buy a G3, hardly used .
    Last edited by Grumpy John; 17th May 2009 at 06:07 PM. Reason: Added PS
    To grow old is inevitable.... To grow up is optional

    Confidence, the feeling you have before you fully understand the situation.

    What could possibly go wrong.

  5. #4
    Calm's Avatar
    Calm is offline Stubby Owner and proud of it. Now coming back to Earth.:D
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Niddrie, Victoria
    Age
    67
    Posts
    2,264

    Default

    What about Pin jaws - if one of those sets (with the possible exception of the 4th picture is better than Vicmark then i might as well keep the ones i have.

    The other question is "how big a blank would you go with a SN2 and the 100 mm jaws i have'?

    Off to work now so will ring GJ later for feedback.

    Cheers
    regards

    David


    "Tell him he's dreamin."
    "How's the serenity" (from "The Castle")

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    12,746

    Default

    The T/tool website has a listing of max size blanks recommended for their chucks and jaws David.

    Happy trucking.
    Cheers, Ern

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Oberon, NSW
    Age
    63
    Posts
    13,360

    Default

    I only have Teknatool chucks (both SN2 and the ol' Precision Midi "tommy bar" jobs) and even though I've quite a few jaw sets I really only use 3 sets:
    • the spigot jaws
    • the std. 45mm jaws
    • & the pin jaws.

    Between them they handle every thing I turn with a chuck.

    I've tried the Vicmarc equivalents and prefer mine... Vicmarc's Shark Jaws have the edge on holding power, but not so much that I'd go out and buy a Vicmarc chuck to use them on. I guess it depends a lot on what you're used to.

    Also, contrary to what it seems most people do; I don't use my pin jaws in expansion mode. If somethig needs that small a mortise, I'll either use a worm-screw or a different chuck made from a bicycle goose-neck mount type thingy. (See here.)

    Where the pin-jaws excel is in holding small diameter dowels/rods. Many people won't use them this way 'cos they don't have a dovetail machined into 'em for grip during contraction mode... but how much grip do you really need when turning something that's only a centimeter or less in diameter?
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

    - Andy Mc

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Flinders Shellharbour
    Posts
    5,693

    Default here you go

    Calm,

    If you check the Teknatool web site you will see that Titan and SN2 have about the same max limit on dia ie 29" or 73.66cm. it might be cheaper to keep your current chucks and buy the big SN2 jaws 130mm or the Power G rip jaws. The 130mm jaws will open 10mm more on the Titan chuck, hardly worth the expense of buying the chuck, and a similar diffference on the power grip jaws between both chucks.


    In fact both chucks are very similar in many respects. Teknatool reckons the Titan holds better?? dunno never had a failure on my SN2's that I did not create myself.



    https://www.teknatool.com/products/C.../PowerGrip.htm

    https://www.teknatool.com/products/C...ries/130mm.htm

    I would recommend jaws over chucks and this is what I have done. This will keep all your chucks as standard and all the jaws can be moved around if necessary.
    Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso


  9. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Kiewa
    Age
    64
    Posts
    1,636

    Default

    David,

    the one problem with the Vicmarc chucks is that the jaws are not interchangable between the VM 100 and the 120/140/150. I've got a 150 dedicated solely for the largest bowl jaws (which has adapted wonderfully by adding 4 plates of ply to the face), plus a 120 with standard and shark jaws.

    If you are thinking BIG, then have a look at the 150, it's a beast of a thing. The tightening mechanism is great - swing or turn key.

    I bought the 120 and 150 first, but have since added 3 VM100 chucks with another on the way. One has smaller bowls jaws, another a screw chuck (also to be replaced by a dedicated screw), one for shark jaws and another for the pin jaws.

    I like everyone could probably do with another....

    I can't fault the Vicmarc quality, bias as I am about the product.

    But that said, you have invested seriously in the Stubby - more than the dearest Vicmarc - so why skimp now? You have one of the best lathes on the market (at least according to Ern!), so I'd suggest humbly that a cheap set of Chinese chisels or "work-around" chucks doesn't make much sense. You've got plenty too mate, with all those interstate trips!

    Anyway, enjoy the shopping. It's good therapy.

    Jeff

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Toowoomba, Qld
    Age
    31
    Posts
    2,520

    Default

    Hey David, Didja know that Vermec make a veery nice chuck

  11. #10
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    North of the coathanger, Sydney
    Age
    68
    Posts
    9,417

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by funkychicken View Post
    Hey David, Didja know that Vermec make a veery nice chuck
    And it appears to accept both the vicmarc and teknatool jaws
    regards
    Nick
    veni, vidi,
    tornavi
    Without wood it's just ...

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    12,746

    Default

    Yeah, the smaller one does, not the bigger.

    Hughie, when you fit Titan Powergrips to the Titan chuck you go out about 30mm in the range compared to the ordinary Powergrips on an SN2.
    Cheers, Ern

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Otautahi , Te Wa'hi Pounamu ( The Mainland) , NZ
    Age
    69
    Posts
    2,114

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Hughie, when you fit Titan Powergrips to the Titan chuck you go out about 30mm in the range compared to the ordinary Powergrips on an SN2.
    Thats true , the titan is the only one that takes all the jaws , from the biggest to the smallest .


    The Teknatool site is a bit of a mess , and takes a while finding your way to the good pages,
    Here is the Chuck Accessory page

  14. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Emerald, QLD
    Posts
    4,489

    Default

    How big is a Titan??? The Vermec is an exquisitely machined 120mm chuck that accepts Vicmarc or Teknatool jaws plus Vermecs own range and has 144 point indexing capability - what more could you possibly want????

    I love my Vermec chuck!

    ...and my Vermec Stubby!
    .
    Updated 8th of February 2024

  15. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Oberon, NSW
    Age
    63
    Posts
    13,360

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT View Post
    How big is a Titan??? The Vermec is an exquisitely machined 120mm chuck that accepts Vicmarc or Teknatool jaws plus Vermecs own range and has 144 point indexing capability - what more could you possibly want????
    So you can't do 145 point indexing?

    I knew there had to be a catch somewhere...
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

    - Andy Mc

  16. #15
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Otautahi , Te Wa'hi Pounamu ( The Mainland) , NZ
    Age
    69
    Posts
    2,114

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT View Post
    How big is a Titan??? The Vermec is an exquisitely machined 120mm
    Titans are bigger . 125 mm

    and rugged with it

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. More chuck jaws
    By BobL in forum WOODTURNING - GENERAL
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 6th March 2011, 08:33 PM
  2. PSI Jaws On Oneway Chuck
    By Paul39 in forum WOODTURNING - GENERAL
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 26th April 2009, 12:54 PM
  3. Gary Pye Chuck Jaws
    By funkychicken in forum WOODTURNING - GENERAL
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 30th January 2008, 09:04 PM
  4. Getting my first Chuck with jaws ??
    By killerbeast in forum WOODTURNING - GENERAL
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 29th November 2007, 05:33 PM
  5. Chuck jaws not parallel
    By neksmerj in forum METALWORK FORUM
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 23rd June 2007, 04:14 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •