Thread: Been mucking about with multi center turning.

Originally Posted by tea lady

Thanks Brendan. Yes the designs are still a work in progress. Still an adventure in "I wonder what happens when". And there are certain details in each one that I especially like, and will try to incorporate in the next ones. I like how they give the impression that the stack of balls and disks could come tumbling down any minute. Was also pondering other things like lamp bases, but couldn't work out how to drill the hole up the middle for the wires.

Would this work ?

What if you bought a really long auger bit, I got some from bunnings ages ago when I built my workbench they can be very long and quite thin.

A quick google yields these Promac Tools :: Wood Drilling :: 1. Wood Augers and this Promac 16 x 1000 Wood Auger Clean Cut WH16.0x1000 | Get Tools Direct

Drill the hole first in the blank, then you could glue some slightly tapered dowel into the ends to plug them up if you had to, do the off centre stuff as usual, and then drill out the plugs when you've finished turning.

Might be tricky trying to visualise where the hole runs in a complicated off centre turning. Good exercise for 3d thinking.

Got it, if you know where the plugs are you can figure out where the hole is by laying a bit of string or a straight dowel up the outside.

Bill

Originally Posted by brendan stemp

Well, these are worth commenting on.

I'm not sure why jefferson was suggesting you need more practise. Perhaps you do and he knows you better than I, but I certainly couldn't judge this based on what I see in these pics.

Well done Ann Marie!!!

I also think this is a great idea, well worth developing.

You could develop this idea into an individual style that becomes identifiable as yours, this is not an easy thing for a woodturner to achieve.

Brendan has achieved this with his work.

Ken Wraight also.

Also like Brendan I not sure why jefferson thinks you need more practice.

Perhaps he might post some images of his own off centre turnings that you could use as a guide??

The rest of us might then learn something?

Keep up the good work Ann Marie, I look forward to future developments.

Cheers

Tim

(I think its just Jefferson's way. )

Originally Posted by steamingbill

Would this work ?

What if you bought a really long auger bit, I got some from bunnings ages ago when I built my workbench they can be very long and quite thin.

A quick google yields these Promac Tools :: Wood Drilling :: 1. Wood Augers and this Promac 16 x 1000 Wood Auger Clean Cut WH16.0x1000 | Get Tools Direct

Drill the hole first in the blank, then you could glue some slightly tapered dowel into the ends to plug them up if you had to, do the off centre stuff as usual, and then drill out the plugs when you've finished turning.

Might be tricky trying to visualise where the hole runs in a complicated off centre turning. Good exercise for 3d thinking.

Got it, if you know where the plugs are you can figure out where the hole is by laying a bit of string or a straight dowel up the outside.

Bill

Maybe with a sectional thing that joined together. Either that or get some really pretty bright red wire that looks good when it shows.

Originally Posted by Tim the Timber Turner

Well done Ann Marie!!!

I also think this is a great idea, well worth developing.

You could develop this idea into an individual style that becomes identifiable as yours, this is not an easy thing for a woodturner to achieve.

Brendan has achieved this with his work.

Ken Wraight also.

Also like Brendan I not sure why jefferson thinks you need more practice.

Perhaps he might post some images of his own off centre turnings that you could use as a guide??

The rest of us might then learn something?

Keep up the good work Ann Marie, I look forward to future developments.

Cheers

Tim

Tim, I've lent my E chuck to a mate, so I can't post some pics of recent work.

If you have a look at some of the JFE work (and some of Ken Wraights), you will see what I'm talking about.

Make no mistake, TL did a fine job. The next step is making it part of your work.

Learning how to cut air is one thing. Making part of a signature piece is another.

And again, TL did wonderful first-up job.

Originally Posted by jefferson

Tim, I've lent my E chuck to a mate, so I can't post some pics of recent work.

Does the E chuck have a camera in it or is that where you store your photo files?

If you have a look at some of the JFE work (and some of Ken Wraights), you will see what I'm talking about.

Why the need to compare? One of AM's talents is her creativity and thus her want to go where others haven't. That's why I like what she has done. That and the fact that her designs works well. I haven't seen anything of JFE that I like, but I'm sure that's a personal opinion. And Ken travels a different road with his MC work. I'm sure AM is fully aware that she has a way to go with developing this work but she sure has made a damn good start; a start that I believe is more advanced than most's starting point and one that is noteworthy and beyond comparison (especially with JFE and KW). I'm sure you meant to provide some good advice and healthy criticism but I thought your comments came across as a little too patronising

Make no mistake, TL did a fine job. The next step is making it part of your work.

Learning how to cut air is one thing. Making part of a signature piece is another.

And again, TL did wonderful first-up job.

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Brendan, I try not to patronise. I did stuff like this - maybe not as well - and put it in the burn pile for last winter.

You don't like JFE's work? That is patronising. Have a look at his website and tell me your not impressed.

Originally Posted by jefferson

Brendan, I try not to patronise. I did stuff like this - maybe not as well - and put it in the burn pile for last winter.

I didn't hold these up as the ultimate. I said I'd been mucking around. And thought others might like to see wht I have done and have a bit of fun trying similar things.. Sorry yours went in the burn pile. We might have learned something seeing your work. We don't have to all be perfect to show others what we have done. I will certainly be continuing developing this concept.

For mucking about I think you did a great job.

I prefer the one on the left best all I would change is the candle holder area (but then that is just a personal thing)the other two give the appearance of being to cluttered.

I look forward to seeing what you produce when you are not mucking about

Originally Posted by jefferson

Brendan, I try not to patronise. I did stuff like this - maybe not as well - and put it in the burn pile for last winter.

Another example of a patronising comment. What you are suggesting is that your efforts at doing similar work to AM's weren't worth keeping so you burnt them. Now how would this make anyone feel. I certainly wouldn't appreciate such a comment and I would wonder about the quality of the author's work.

You don't like JFE's work? That is patronising. Have a look at his website and tell me your not impressed.

This was not a patronising comment. Perhaps we have a different understanding of the word. It is a simple statement of fact. I know of people that don't like my work and have told me. KW is one such person. Fair enough. I don't like the Mona Lisa as a painting. This is not patronising.

And I have seen Escoulen's work and, as I wrote before I don't like it. It just ain't my cup of tea. I might be impressed by the skill he demonstrates but that's an entirely different thing to liking it or not.

I choose my words carefully, perhaps you should do the same.

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Brendan, what part of NOT AS WELL didn't you read?

Play nice kiddies.

Nice work TeaLady. I am sure I could not hope to do as well until I get a lot more experience.

It does inspire me to want to go out and give it a go - once I finish a hundred other things of course.

Nice job . Thanks for sharing it. it is inspirational.

Cheers

Doug

Play nice?

I've got the Stemp telling me how to choose my words more carefully. And another bloke from SA weighing in on the action.

I repeat, I think TL did a good job thus far. But she needs to go further. What's wrong with being honest and saying that? JFE is a long way ahead. Even though the Stemp says he likes TL's work but not that of the master. What? What?

Brendan, as a professional woodturner, you can't be serious. JFE invented off-centre turning and you cannot praise it?

Why is there such an insistence on praising ANY work posted? I see it all the time. Get standing over your shoulder and saying that aint good enough.

And yes, Brendan, an ex-school teacher, you better re-think what you've accused me of. I still haven't heard back from you. A PM may be necessary. I know you send a few around. Maybe it's your turn. And yes, I do like some of your work. I can't speak for anyone else. I particularly like your ability to turn duplicate shakers.

I will try to behave but some make it difficult.