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    Default Nova chuck locking grubscrews - alternatives?

    My Nova lathe came with M6 x 6mm steel grubscrews with fibre washers to lock the chuck to the lathe, and the same system is used to lock the chuck to the adapter insert. Every time I remove the chuck from the lathe, the fibre pad stays on the lathe and if I'm not really careful/lucky it drops to the floor, lost forever in a pile of shavings! I do like to have the lock screw in place as I frequently reverse the lathe for sanding, but the loss rate on the washers is getting annoying. Using the lock screw without the washer risks damaging the lathe, so I need an alternative.

    Ideally I'd like nylon inserts in the grubscrews, but the only screws of that type that I can find (in the correct size) are stainless steel, and I'm not keen on stainless in such environments, especially cheap Chinese stainless! I've ordered some brass screws, which at least will be easy to drill out if they fail, but does anyone know of a source of black steel M6 x 6mm grubscrews with a nylon insert?

    The other option is to simply punch out a large number of pads from some suitable material, and regard them as a single use item.......

    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warb View Post
    My Nova lathe came with M6 x 6mm steel grubscrews with fibre washers to lock the chuck to the lathe, and the same system is used to lock the chuck to the adapter insert. Every time I remove the chuck from the lathe, the fibre pad stays on the lathe
    snip

    The other option is to simply punch out a large number of pads from some suitable material, and regard them as a single use item...
    perhaps adopt the "other option" tread the lost fibre washers as "losable" and keep a bunch of spares in a suitable container
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Copper is good material for this purpose. 3/4" Copper water pipe can be easily cut a flattened and punched. Heating with a LPG torch will anneal it and make it even easier.

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    I'm a bit confused about what you mean. I can't see how inserts for the grub-screws would allow you to do away with the washer.

    I was going to suggest buying a bag of small split-shot sinkers. Every time I remove/replace my chuck, I drop one down each hole before tightening up the grubs screws. To my mind they give a tighter grip w/out damaging or marking the headstock spindle and I'm not too concerned about losing the odd shot or two.

    But I gather that's not the sort of suggestion you're after?


    I'm not too sure I'd use BobL's method. Unless you have equipment that can press/roll the copper so it's of very even thickness. It is what the chuck registers against, after all, and any discrepancy will make the chuck run off true.
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    I've used copper plugs on my 3 WW lathe chucks and on my MW chucks for about 10 years. With the WW chucks I lost the fibre plugs after a couple removals but the copper ones have never fallen out - they seem to mould themselves to both the grub screw and spindle threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    I'm a bit confused about what you mean. I can't see how inserts for the grub-screws would allow you to do away with the washer.

    I was going to suggest buying a bag of small split-shot sinkers. Every time I remove/replace my chuck, I drop one down each hole before tightening up the grubs screws. To my mind they give a tighter grip w/out damaging or marking the headstock spindle and I'm not too concerned about losing the odd shot or two.

    But I gather that's not the sort of suggestion you're after?


    I'm not too sure I'd use BobL's method. Unless you have equipment that can press/roll the copper so it's of very even thickness. It is what the chuck registers against, after all, and any discrepancy will make the chuck run off true.
    The fibre washers do exactly what your lead sinkers do, and Bob's using copper discs to do the same thing. Both are great suggestions. My preference was for a grubscrew with a nylon insert because I've used them in other sizes and they remove any requirement to remember to insert anything (or catch it when it falls out), but these options are definitely worth trying. The lead shot is particularly good, because it requires no preparation.

    Thanks to both of you!

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