Thread: oyster box help

I have developed a feel for using a oland tool for that type of work and it works well for me. Then again, no one ever accused me of being "normal" when it comes to turning

You want to make it deeper I take it??

I have tackled this sort of thing witn a parting tool. I just "step" it down to roughly to the depth and shape and then use a bowl gouge to get it to shape. A shearing cut is best. Guess you could also use a scraper.

Cultana, there is a technique using a spindle gouge...yes, I said a spindle gouge, to hollow out end grain turnings. T he cut itself is initiated from the centerpoint and is almost counterintuitive... a technique that does take a bit of practice to master.

Like Artme said, you can use a bowl gouge and use it as a scraper to take care of the inside of that bowl. An Oland type hollowing tool also does a great job.

Should be a good lookin' bowl when done.

Thanks guys.
Well this my first try at this type of stuff so it is bound to have issues in the finished item.

Now with a bowl gouge do I start from the centre or from the inner edge?

With the scraper I have started fro the centre and so far that seems ok.

I cheat by hollowing out with a suitably sized Forstner bit to nearly the depth required, then refine the hollow with a Bowl gouge for the walls and an Oland tool for the base of the hollow.

Originally Posted by Ed Reiss

Cultana, there is a technique using a spindle gouge...yes, I said a spindle gouge, to hollow out end grain turnings. T he cut itself is initiated from the centerpoint and is almost counterintuitive... a technique that does take a bit of practice to master.

Ed, perhaps the Raffan 'back cut'. Video clip here.

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Was going to suggest that Neil but I thought it might frighten Cultana!

Using the method I described I usuall work from the bottom up, but it can be done the other way.

A shallow fluted spindle gouge could also be used after removing mot of the material with whatever method takes your fancy.

Niel, thanks. At first it was OK because I could not load the clip. So it was not scary. Then I used the mac and watched it

I have only been wood turning for a short time I don't need to be scared off just yet.

Originally Posted by artme

Was going to suggest that Neil but I thought it might frighten Cultana!
Thanks for the concern!!!

Using the method I described I usuall work from the bottom up, but it can be done the other way.

A shallow fluted spindle gouge could also be used after removing mot of the material with whatever method takes your fancy.

Now if people here had told me how scary this whole thing was I would have avoided it completely.
I suppose I will have to make a bowl or two as well just to be fully indoctrinated to turning.

Thanks now to go get fully scared with that bowl gouge and end grain combination..

Originally Posted by cultana

Niel, thanks. At first it was OK because I could not load the clip. So it was not scary. Then I used the mac and watched it

Sorry, Cultana. Store that away to have a play with another time.

If you don't have anyone to show you how to use gouges properly at this stage, just use scrapers. That's the way it was done for centuries.

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Neil, no big problem.
I tried it but the gouge decided to do a bit of walking.
End of try 1.

I also think the bowl gouge has too much of a point on it so I will need to regrind it.

Originally Posted by cultana

With the scraper I have started fro the centre and so far that seems ok.

that's right. You start fro\m the center. That way you are still cutting "down the grain". I wish you could see Ken Wraight in action. He has a really great way for beginners to do end grain boxes. Hed uses a spindle gouge or a detail gouge (would you believe.) I think there are a few pics of someone at the turnaround and Jeffersons.

the only pic I had was this. Yvonne at the Kaiwa Turnon2009, hollowing her first end grain box under the close guidance of Ken W.


Anyway, at least it shows the angle of the gouge on the rest. It is virtually horizontal on the center line. You start with it n the center with the bevel kind rubbing, with the flute at 45ish ° facing you. You slowly pull the tip towards you following the bottom of the bowl, while the handle is kinda pushed away from you. Coming the the wall of the bowl you have the angle such that the corner of the flute closest to you will not hit the wall. (Causing a catch. ) You then draw the gouge straight out running up the side of the bowl or box.

We're gonna need photos aren't we?

Originally Posted by tea lady

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Anyway, at least it shows the angle of the gouge on the rest. It is virtually horizontal on the center line. You start with it n the center with the bevel kind rubbing, with the flute at 45ish ° facing you. You slowly pull the tip towards you following the bottom of the bowl, while the handle is kinda pushed away from you. Coming the the wall of the bowl you have the angle such that the corner of the flute closest to you will not hit the wall. (Causing a catch. ) You then draw the gouge straight out running up the side of the bowl or box.

We're gonna need photos aren't we?

Yes we, (me), will need pics of what you just described, won't we, (me).

Also looks like I will need a bowl gouge grinding gismo and several different ground spindle and bowl gouges.

I might get the feeling it is time to slide back to that dark and gloomy place where the dark forces work with just hand tools again...

Originally Posted by cultana

Yes we, (me), will need pics of what you just described, won't we, (me).

Also looks like I will need a bowl gouge grinding gismo and several different ground spindle and bowl gouges.

I might get the feeling it is time to slide back to that dark and gloomy place where the dark forces work with just hand tools again...

Don't need that many tools. You can do it with a spindle gouge. And I only recently got me a grinding gizmo. (Although I did periodically get the grind fixed up at 's place. ) will try and take pics in the morning. Might not get to it until later in the week though.

Originally Posted by tea lady

Don't need that many tools. You can do it with a spindle gouge.
Yes I could but it has taken on a long thin ponity look so needs a re grind. The bowl gouge is in the same shape too pointy.
And I only recently got me a grinding gizmo. (Although I did periodically get the grind fixed up at 's place. ) Cheat!
will try and take pics in the morning. Might not get to it until later in the week though.

Thanks about the pics..