Thread: The power of crowdsourcing

Good point about the warranty.

On quick check i have have five. Top 4 in the photo all from the one manufacturer - but given the tool identity they have been used a bit as well. The fifth as a dovetail recess tool probably hasnt had the same degree of use. All have been stored well since purchase.
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Originally Posted by mjl09

Good point about the warranty.

On quick check i have have five. Top 4 in the photo all from the one manufacturer - but given the tool identity they have been used a bit as well. The fifth as a dovetail recess tool probably hasnt had the same degree of use. All have been stored well since purchase.
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Thank you this is exactly the sort of example I am chasing.

I had one of my Hamlets crack, but well used and have replaced with one of spare handles I had, and at home not with me.

Banging the dimple seems completely unnecessary to me. And seems to bring in an inherent weekness.

I've checked all our 50 bought tools, some Record, Woodcut, P & N, Sorby, Gary Pye and Henry Taylors. Some were bought new some second hand and apart from the specialty tools all are used fairly well.

None of the ferrules show any signs mentioned but a brass ferrule I bought a few years ago from the Woodsmith for a home made tool does show it. Will replace that one with a copper pipe one before an accident occurs.

Thanks for alerting us to it.

Peter.

Have never had a ferrule crack. Have had most of the 'major' brands.

But, haven't purchased a pre-handled tool in recent years.

Here is a photo of three tools with cracked ferrules that have had very light use before being stored away in their original plastic sleves in a warm dry environment. They do crack, at least in Oz.

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Originally Posted by Mobyturns

Here is a photo of three tools with cracked ferrules that have had very light use before being stored away in their original plastic sleves in a warm dry environment. They do crack, at least in Oz.

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Moby - It's very clear from your pic what is causing this problem, as observed by Hughie and others, the punching is splitting the ferrules.

I would have thought that a ferrule that is thin enough to be punched deep enough to hold it in place is too thin anyway to be an effective ferrule.

If something extra is needed to secure the ferrule, the pin arrangement on the P&Ns seems like a better method.

Other than Hamlet, are there any other brand names with this unacceptable problem?

Originally Posted by NeilS

Moby - It's very clear from your pic what is causing this problem, as observed by Hughie and others, the punching is splitting the ferrules.

I would have thought that a ferrule that is thin enough to be punched deep enough to hold it in place is too thin anyway to be an effective ferrule.

If something extra is needed to secure the ferrule, the pin arrangement on the P&Ns seems like a better method.

Other than Hamlet, are there any other brand names with this unacceptable problem?

Neil,

I know of multiple instances with different brands in vastly different locations all with the same common failure. I'm trying to get an idea of how widespread the issue may be.

It is difficult to go about this without identifying particular brands as some are so iconic that even a small portion of the tool is easily recognizable. I have no intention or desire to hurt brands or companies. I just want to improve safety for wood turners hopefully make them aware of the potential hazards and risks of using tools with cracked ferrules.